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Previously on "If MPs stop Brexit, Middle England could stage its biggest revolt in modern history"

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Exactly they need to get the rioters on the street.
    It's more related to Farage's paramilitary plans.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    Exactly they need to get the rioters on the street.
    So long as any riots start after 9:30, so they can use their free bus passes to get there. All riots need to finish by 12 too, as there are OAP lunchtime specials down 'spoonies they need to take advantage of.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    This Brexiteer narrative is switching from:

    'They are ignoring the will of the people because they think they know better as to what is best for the country'

    ...to...

    'They are ignoring the will of the people because they want an outcome that benefits them first and foremost'

    The Traitors and Enemies of the People rhetoric is building up for a claim of 'Stab in the Back'.
    Exactly they need to get the rioters on the street.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Which is to do what they think is best for those they represent.
    This Brexiteer narrative is switching from:

    'They are ignoring the will of the people because they think they know better as to what is best for the country'

    ...to...

    'They are ignoring the will of the people because they want an outcome that benefits them first and foremost'

    The Traitors and Enemies of the People rhetoric is building up for a claim of 'Stab in the Back'.

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  • BlasterBates
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    EU caves in to May's demands

    There you go the Brexiteers were right all along.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    Which is to do what they think is best for those they represent.
    If MPs don't do what an individual wants then generally they argue that the politician is self-serving. Therefore the argument about whether politicians are self-serving is a pointless argument. It's not really an argument, it's just a slogan.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    No I mean they are incapable of making a decision which is not designed to benefit them first and foremost.

    Which is most certainly not what they are elected for.
    Which is to do what they think is best for those they represent.

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  • BlasterBates
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    It doesn't matter what MPs do, they will be vilified unless they deliver "unicorns". If there is a no deal they'll be vilified for the ensuing chaos, if they vote for May's deal, they'll be vilified for that as well. They may as well do a full reversal on Brexit.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    No I mean they are incapable of making a decision which is not designed to benefit them first and foremost.

    Which is most certainly not what they are elected for.
    Then why did you use the word 'impartial'?

    Moving on, in what way is Sarah Wollaston acting to benefit herself first and foremost?

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    No I mean they are incapable of making a decision which is not designed to benefit them first and foremost.

    Which is most certainly not what they are elected for.
    Indeed although it does look like they're slowly learning their lesson.

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    The great news is that it is a different question. The original question didn't define the type of withdrawal - the whole range from Norway + single market to hardest of Brexits. Why would you object the the electorate having their say. Do you not trust them?

    In terms of politicians being impartial. Are you muddling them up with judges?
    No I mean they are incapable of making a decision which is not designed to benefit them first and foremost.

    Which is most certainly not what they are elected for.

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  • Old Greg
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    I am against asking the same question over and over until you get the answer you want.

    However I am most certainly not against having referendum's for future decisions....

    I think the politicians have made it quite clear that they are incapable of any form of impartial decision making.
    The great news is that it is a different question. The original question didn't define the type of withdrawal - the whole range from Norway + single market to hardest of Brexits. Why would you object the the electorate having their say. Do you not trust them?

    In terms of politicians being impartial. Are you muddling them up with judges?

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post

    However I am most certainly not against having referendum's for future decisions....
    Nor was a certain Bohemian Corporal...

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  • original PM
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    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    I thought you were against another referendum.
    I am against asking the same question over and over until you get the answer you want.

    However I am most certainly not against having referendum's for future decisions....

    I think the politicians have made it quite clear that they are incapable of any form of impartial decision making.

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    There you go ftfy.

    I thought you were against another referendum.

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