Reply to: Project Lie

[NotAllThere]

I think the Op was referring to the Guardian Newspaper being the Official reading material of the remain camp.

The Times has plenty of pro-remain contributors. You seem to be unaware that like the leave vote, the remain vote had a large proportion of voters from both the conservative and labour camps. It was not really party along political lines.

[Mordac]

So that's a Yes then. Not just in theory but in practice.

So, the 100 million per week is never sent to EU and the UK has a veto over it (accepting that it is a feature of a veto that the party that holds the veto may choose not to wield it).

So in what way does leaving the EU free up this 100 million per week to spend on other priorities?

Creative accounting?

[Old Greg]

In theory we do, but if the PM chooses not to use it (as Blair did) what's the point in having it?

So that's a Yes then. Not just in theory but in practice.

So, the 100 million per week is never sent to EU and the UK has a veto over it (accepting that it is a feature of a veto that the party that holds the veto may choose not to wield it).

So in what way does leaving the EU free up this 100 million per week to spend on other priorities?

[Mordac]

You didn't answer the question. So again:

Are you saying that the UK does not have a veto over changes to the rebate?

In theory we do, but if the PM chooses not to use it (as Blair did) what's the point in having it?

[Old Greg]

You are clearly incapable of seeing the wood for the trees.
I suggest you have another smoke and everything will be ok.

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Sure.

[Yorkie62]

It's clearly too complex for you.

The Guardian, like other grown up papers such as the Telegraph and FT, has a range of writers who write opinion pieces. The Guardian has always been pro Remain. Larry Elliott, one of its regular writers, has been pro Leave.

Do you honestly think that including this opinion piece means that the paper considers project fear bollox?

If the answer is yes, we can just leave it at that. I don't have time to educate the mince today.

You are clearly incapable of seeing the wood for the trees.
I suggest you have another smoke and everything will be ok.

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[Old Greg]

Ps I'd get a new dot-to-dot book if I were you as yours is clearly flawed.

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It's clearly too complex for you.

The Guardian, like other grown up papers such as the Telegraph and FT, has a range of writers who write opinion pieces. The Guardian has always been pro Remain. Larry Elliott, one of its regular writers, has been pro Leave.

Do you honestly think that including this opinion piece means that the paper considers project fear bollox?

If the answer is yes, we can just leave it at that. I don't have time to educate the mince today.

[Yorkie62]

FFS. He said that the official paper considers project fear bollox.

I said that it is an opinion piece. I will join the dots for you. An opinion piece is not the same as an editorial position.

Ps I'd get a new dot-to-dot book if I were you as yours is clearly flawed.

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[Yorkie62]

FFS. He said that the official paper considers project fear bollox.

I said that it is an opinion piece. I will join the dots for you. An opinion piece is not the same as an editorial position.

It may be an opinion piece but it is still printed in The Guardian newspaper. Now unless I am mistaken anything published in any newspaper is subject to some form of editorial review, I.e. it doesn't get in without editorial approval. Is not The Guardian a pro remain newspaper with I assume a pro remain editor. Therefore to publish in what the Op actually called "...the Mung bean eaters official paper..." which actually refers to the Gaudian as the reading material of Choice for the veggies. It is irrelevant as to whether of not it is an opinion piece. It is about which publication it was published in and therefore subjected to editorial review of said publication. That in itself gives some credibility towards it being a sanctioned (official if you like) piece.

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[Old Greg]

I think the Op was referring to the Guardian Newspaper being the Official reading material of the remain camp.

FFS. He said that the official paper considers project fear bollox.

I said that it is an opinion piece. I will join the dots for you. An opinion piece is not the same as an editorial position.

[BlasterBates]

The reason why the doom didn't happen was because the government didn't leave the EU! If Cameron had gone over to Brussels in June 2016 to give notice of a "WTO Brexit" and not a Brino transition the UK would have left the EU in the middle of last year and trucks would be queueing 20 miles at Dover, and all those doom laden predictions would probably have come true. The economic forecast based on EEA membership, which is what the current deal is in effect predicted no doom.

[Yorkie62]

Do you understand what an opinion piece is? Larry Elliott was pro Brexit, writing is a pro Remain paper.

Congrats on maintaining your usual standards.

I think the Op was referring to the Guardian Newspaper being the Official reading material of the remain camp.

[Old Greg]

Brexit Armageddon was a terrifying vision – but it simply hasn’t happened | Larry Elliott | Opinion | The Guardian

hmmm

you have to worry when the mung bean eaters official paper considers project fear bollox

Do you understand what an opinion piece is? Larry Elliott was pro Brexit, writing is a pro Remain paper.

Congrats on maintaining your usual standards.

[vetran]

GBP350 million EU claim "a clear misuse of official statistics" - Full Fact

Brexit Armageddon was a terrifying vision – but it simply hasn’t happened | Larry Elliott | Opinion | The Guardian

hmmm

you have to worry when the mung bean eaters official paper considers project fear bollox

Remember all that? It was hard to avoid the doom and gloom, not just in the weeks leading up to the referendum, but in those immediately after it. Many of those who voted remain comforted themselves with the certain knowledge that those who had voted for Brexit would suffer a bad case of buyer’s remorse.

[Mordac]

Thanks.

Not exactly for nothing though was it?

How exactly did the UK benefit from said deal?