Reply to: Brexit: The Uncivil War (C4)

[Zigenare]

Strength through joy.

Arbeit Macht Frei!

[Old Greg]

Brexit can only be delivered via a dictatorship so I'm expecting UKIP to throw their weight behind that idea.

A dictator needs a slogan, so I think "will of the people" would be ideal. A dictator doesn't need to be bothered with all that human rights nonsense and "political correctness".

Strength through joy.

[BlasterBates]

Brexit can only be delivered via a dictatorship so I'm expecting UKIP to throw their weight behind that idea.

A dictator needs a slogan, so I think "will of the people" would be ideal. A dictator doesn't need to be bothered with all that human rights nonsense and "political correctness".

[Old Greg]

That's not always a bad thing.

Yes it is.

[Yorkie62]

I have a lot of sympathy for this point of view. Even as a Remainer, to me it beggars belief that the government don't appear to have listened to the grassroots and started work on implementing real policies that will help the JAMs and the left-behinds.




He'd probably need to stand for election first, unless you're advocating an unelected dictatorship :-)

That's not always a bad thing.

[Old Greg]

I have a lot of sympathy for this point of view. Even as a Remainer, to me it beggars belief that the government don't appear to have listened to the grassroots and started work on implementing real policies that will help the JAMs and the left-behinds.

Everyone will prosper after a red white and blue Brexit.

[GreenMirror]

I have a lot of sympathy for this point of view. Even as a Remainer, to me it beggars belief that the government don't appear to have listened to the grassroots and started work on implementing real policies that will help the JAMs and the left-behinds.

Apart from a few social media posts the government has no feedback. The French lead the way.

He'd probably need to stand for election first, unless you're advocating an unelected dictatorship :-)

Good point! I was thinking more along the lines of Sarah Harding in To play the King....

[meridian]

The bigger danger is how government/parliament manages voter expectations. Which is what Dominic Cummings objected to.

It summed up the reason I voted Brexit. Objecting to the establishment and feeling left behind. However you vote the government always gets in.

I have a lot of sympathy for this point of view. Even as a Remainer, to me it beggars belief that the government don't appear to have listened to the grassroots and started work on implementing real policies that will help the JAMs and the left-behinds.

What I would prefer to happen is Dominic Cummings to become PM. I am sure there is a universe somewhere that he is.

He'd probably need to stand for election first, unless you're advocating an unelected dictatorship :-)

[GreenMirror]

I though it was quite compelling viewing. It did highlight the dangers of social media and how it can be used to mange voters expectations.

The bigger danger is how government/parliament manages voter expectations. Which is what Dominic Cummings objected to.

It summed up the reason I voted Brexit. Objecting to the establishment and feeling left behind. However you vote the government always gets in.

The vote leave as exposed just how badly this country is run. Rather than this shower, the UK would be better run by Brussels. Apologies to those who voted stay for being slow on the uptake.

What I would prefer to happen is Dominic Cummings to become PM. I am sure there is a universe somewhere that he is.

[Mordac]

Looking at the Brexit Twittersphere, the Leavers don't so C4 is getting a bashing

Apparently BC (ardent Remainer, natch) demanded changes to the script to make Cummings look more devious, sinister and manipulating. I've got it on Skyplus, so I'll reserve judgement until I've actually watched it.

[meridian]

I'd really like to hope that society isn't that influenced by "social media" - however, something tells me that's a vain hope!

Lots of comments from Brexiteer accounts on Twitter last night saying "we didn't vote Leave because of a social media campaign, we've wanted this for years" etc.

I think the key point - which a lot of them seemed to miss - is that they weren't trying to influence everyone using social media, just the floating/undecided people in the middle.

It's fairly safe to say that the campaign managers were savvy. They wouldn't have spent £675,000 on social media advertising* if they didn't think it would have any effect.

*Including "ads" that didn't really look like advertising

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

I'd really like to hope that society isn't that influenced by "social media" - however, something tells me that's a vain hope!

Lots of comments from Brexiteer accounts on Twitter last night saying "we didn't vote Leave because of a social media campaign, we've wanted this for years" etc.

I think the key point - which a lot of them seemed to miss - is that they weren't trying to influence everyone using social media, just the floating/undecided people in the middle.

[Yorkie62]

I'd really like to hope that society isn't that influenced by "social media" - however, something tells me that's a vain hope!

Come on you know that if its reported on Facebook then it is indisputable fact. Everybody on Facebook says so, so it must be true.

[Zigenare]

I though it was quite compelling viewing. It did highlight the dangers of social media and how it can be used to mange voters expectations.

I'd really like to hope that society isn't that influenced by "social media" - however, something tells me that's a vain hope!

[Yorkie62]

I though it was quite compelling viewing. It did highlight the dangers of social media and how it can be used to mange voters expectations.