Reply to: Bodes well for future trade deals

[NotAllThere]

... They believe anything they are told, poor little souls

Only if it reinforces their deeply entrenched prejudices and biases. Evidenced truth that goes against their beliefs is dimissed as propaganda.

[Old Greg]

And yet snowflake Brexiters want to leave the 'corrupt' EU They believe anything they are told, poor little souls

Especially if it is on the side of the bus. I wonder how many still believe that the UK sends 350 million quid per week to the EU. Anyone?

[Whorty]

Corruption in the UK is more sophisticated than third world countries. I have seen so much corruption with IT contracts being awarded. Usually the council or government bods get a directorship in an IT company after early retirement. They attend once a year and get paid a fortune.

And yet snowflake Brexiters want to leave the 'corrupt' EU They believe anything they are told, poor little souls

[Paddy]

Love it that North Korea is perceived as less corrupt than the UK

Corruption in the UK is more sophisticated than third world countries. I have seen so much corruption with IT contracts being awarded. Usually the council or government bods get a directorship in an IT company after early retirement. They attend once a year and get paid a fortune.

[Whorty]

Nothing is more corrupt than the EU.

Ha ha ha

[Whorty]

Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia

Do you see the EU, if evaluated alongside nation states, ranking worse than Somalia?

Love it that North Korea is perceived as less corrupt than the UK

[Old Greg]

Nothing is more corrupt than the EU.

Corruption Perceptions Index - Wikipedia

Do you see the EU, if evaluated alongside nation states, ranking worse than Somalia?

[GreenMirror]

All these morally corrupt countries we can trade with once we destroy our trading with the EU

Nothing is more corrupt than the EU.

Just waiting for 2nd referendum - and if we don't vote the way the EU want there will be a 3rd.

We need a PM who thinks no deal all the way.

[NotAllThere]

.... not

Huawei: China accuses UK of 'pride and prejudice' - BBC News

Well, they'd hardly accuse of Sense and Sensibility.

Or Emma.

[Whorty]

Will the EU do that, and will it put their shiny new trade deal with Japan in jeopardy?

They at least have the strength to put some sanctions in place and they are stronger than Japan (trade wide). The UK however cannot as it would risk any future trade deal with Japan, so we would bend over and let Japan do whatever they want.

[darmstadt]

Actually this is something which could affect any future trade deals:

MPs want 'meaningful vote' to be able to veto post-Brexit trade deals - Sky News

When Liam Fox, who has basically done sweet FA up to now, gets around to sorting out new trade deals it could -

(a) either be good by protecting British interests or
(b) be bad by capitulating to foreign trade negotiators

[Whorty]

My link and plenty of others suggest the Chinese have been spying on us and our allies as well as stealing IP. Surely a trading deal where we drop our trousers and lube up is not helpful?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...property-theft

Exactly. You've just supported my very argument. The main trade argument for Brexit is we can have new, better deals with the likes of China and Japan, but as you say, China are maybe not as nice as your overlords have portrayed them. So we;re throwing away good trade with our close neighbours, in order to get shafted by the likes of China and the US.

As you've supported the argument, pray tell how this is project desperation? Unless you now agree that Brexit will make the UK more desperate.

[vetran]

Go on then, I'll bite, how is this project desperation?

My link shows bad blood between China and the UK as we're taking out Chinese tech and they aren't happy. Given we need China to be our friends, and we will be desperate to get a trade deal with them, us upsetting them surely can't be a good thing .... unless we do hold all the cards and they need us more than we need them

My link and plenty of others suggest the Chinese have been spying on us and our allies as well as stealing IP. Surely a trading deal where we drop our trousers and lube up is not helpful?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...property-theft

[Whorty]

yeah


Decoding the Chinese Super Micro super spy-chip super-scandal: What do we know – and who is telling the truth? • The Register


project desperation again?

Go on then, I'll bite, how is this project desperation?

My link shows bad blood between China and the UK as we're taking out Chinese tech and they aren't happy. Given we need China to be our friends, and we will be desperate to get a trade deal with them, us upsetting them surely can't be a good thing .... unless we do hold all the cards and they need us more than we need them

[vetran]

Will the EU do that, and will it put their shiny new trade deal with Japan in jeopardy?

of course they won't that would require balls - Japan is bigger than belgium.