Reply to: Two years wasted

[Eirikur]

Do we really need a new referendum? They know the people can't be trusted to vote how they want.

Can't the government do their job and vote on whether to accept May's deal, a hard brexit, or cancel the whole damn thing?

Though if they were doing their job they'd be voting based on what their constituents wanted, so back to the risk of giving the people what they want that goes against what those in power want 'in the nation's best interest'.

We know that politicians can't be trusted either.
Find me the first one that actually works for the country's sake and not their own (or on second place party's) sake

[Hobosapien]

Do we really need a new referendum? They know the people can't be trusted to vote how they want.

Can't the government do their job and vote on whether to accept May's deal, a hard brexit, or cancel the whole damn thing?

Though if they were doing their job they'd be voting based on what their constituents wanted, so back to the risk of giving the people what they want that goes against what those in power want 'in the nation's best interest'.

[Unix]

Now that might be an interesting one to consider:
If Labour won the GE and decided to hold another referendum, would any of the staunch Brexit pro-right wing Tory voters actually vote remain as an effort to derail Labour?

i.e. given the option between two evils (as they would see it), is staying in the EU for a term of parliament better than having a Labour government in the UK?

If Labour won the GE, they would remain in power regardless of the result of the new referendum. So No Brexit and Labour in power.

[Hobosapien]

Two years wasted is nothing.

Drunker told he's wearing odd shoes, one brown one black.

Don't even need to be sober to out-negotiate the UK government on brexit.

[WTFH]

It was obvious to anyone with half a brain cell this would be the result regardless of who was in charge. The tories will now self-destruct letting Labour into government who will hold a new referendum which we will vote to remain.

Now that might be an interesting one to consider:
If Labour won the GE and decided to hold another referendum, would any of the staunch Brexit pro-right wing Tory voters actually vote remain as an effort to derail Labour?

i.e. given the option between two evils (as they would see it), is staying in the EU for a term of parliament better than having a Labour government in the UK?

[Unix]

It was obvious to anyone with half a brain cell this would be the result regardless of who was in charge. The tories will now self-destruct letting Labour into government who will hold a new referendum which we will vote to remain.

[Whorty]

I was promised a hard one, but looking at it now, it's small, limp, laughable, and something about it stinks.

No you wasn't. You was promised a Brexit that removed FoM, CU, SM etc and this is essentially what May's deal delivers. ERG want a hard Brexit as they can profit from the chaos, and they are convincing people that May's deal doesn't deliver "the will of the people", but they are being disingenuous. The ERG mob need to be honest about what they want, and what they don't want is any deal, so anything the government deliver the ERG will reject - this is why they won't support BoJo as PM, as they know he won't want to deliver no deal - they need a puppet PM like Raab. But of course, JRM and his pals being honest is not likely.

If there is a second ref, then it should be take the deal, or revoke A50.

[TestMangler]

David Cameron on Twitter: "Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband: https://t.co/fmhcfTunbm"

LOL

[NotAllThere]

And remember, kids: a year wasted. Is never a wasted year.

Depends how much you were drinking.

I was promised a hard one, but looking at it now, it's small, limp, laughable, and something about it stinks.

Hmm. You probably should refrain from buying viagra pills over the internet. But never mind that; what's your view on Brexit?

[meridian]

Thread by @garius: "LIDINGTON: First one's gone. It's Shailesh. MAY: Who? LIDINGTON: Shailesh Vara. MAY: David, I was up until 4am pretending to give a tulip abo […]"

[darmstadt]

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[DimPrawn]

I was promised a hard one, but looking at it now, it's small, limp, laughable, and something about it stinks.

[Old Greg]

Well not really. But if they can't be arsed then they forfeit the right to complain about the result.

Why do gammons hate freedom of speech so much? It's very un-British.

[shaunbhoy]

You mean majority of the voted population.

I mean a majority of those eligible to vote who actually bothered to exercise that right.

That is why the results of the referendum should have been binding only if 50% +1 votes of total population is for it.

Eh? A huge chunk of the "total population" are too young to vote.
An argument could be made for having put in a better system requiring a clearer margin to achieve victory, but that is NOT what was put in place. Little point getting into a lather now over missed opportunities and lack of vision on the part of Cameron/Osborne.

If they can't be arsed to vote than it is a useless exercise.

Well not really. But if they can't be arsed then they forfeit the right to complain about the result.