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Previously on "Tory No-Deal Brexit DOOM(tm): Falklands 2"

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Hey potato peeler, there have been no world wars since the EC and EU are in existence,. The only wars in Europe since WW2 were between non members. Maybe too difficult to understand for your spud mind.

    Hey feckwit there have been no world wars after Robert Oppenheimer worked out how to turn a city into glass back in 1945, that made everyone realise that world war was very risky its known as Mutually Assured Destruction.

    There have however been many local wars including a number of genocides in Europe, the EU have not been instrumental in stopping those so as usual is cobblers to assert the EU has had any serious effect on peace.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    there have been no world wars since the EC and EU (and, more importantly, NATO) are in existence,. The only wars in Europe since WW2 were between non members. Maybe completely irrelevant but that won't stop me trying to use it to defend my ludicrously absurd stance
    ftfy

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
    Hey potato peeler, there have been no world wars since the EC and EU are in existence,. The only wars in Europe since WW2 were between non members. Maybe too difficult to understand for your spud mind.
    Think about it. All the major wars in Europe for the last 200 years were caused by either the French or the Germans deciding they wanted to run everything. Neither was successful. Eventually the penny dropped, and they realised that if they got together politically, they could carve up Europe between themselves, throw a few bones to the Italians, Spanish and Belgians, and everybody would be happy.
    Now the cosy club is a bit bigger, and they need to throw more bones around the place, but now they've made sure they have enough power to slap down anyone who steps out of line. Essentially there can't be any European wars now that the Germans are in charge of the money, and the French are in charge of the weapons. Happy days...

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  • Eirikur
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    I didn't.



    There WAS no EU when we were winning two world wars

    Hey potato peeler, there have been no world wars since the EC and EU are in existence,. The only wars in Europe since WW2 were between non members. Maybe too difficult to understand for your spud mind.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    There WAS no EU when we were winning two world wars.
    Yes, we were on the winning side during the 2nd WW, but we certainly didn't do it on our own and we needed a whole lot of luck. We were lucky Hitler started wars on two fronts. We were lucky he decided to send most of his bombers over the UK and we were then lucky we had enough pilots (thanks to the Polish) to take down these bombers. We were then lucky the US chose to help us (at a big cost that we only recently paid off). We were lucky that Japan chose to attack the US at Pearl Harbour (up until then the Japanese were giving us a right spanking in SE Asia - Churchill abandoned Singapore to the Japanese as he knew we couldn't defend Asia and Europe).

    So yes, we were on the winning side but WE did not win WW2. We, along with our allies, won the war. I know as an ex Squaddie you're biased, but we were running on luck. We took advantage of that luck, but we needed that luck nevertheless.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    To be fair, the EU didn't exist in 1982. Had they existed, however, they would have done what they have done with every conflict since. Sod all.

    That's why they need a NAAFI, someone has to wave the white flags and volunteer as collaborators.
    Last edited by vetran; 27 October 2018, 21:52.

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    How exactly did the EU "support" Britain during the Falklands conflict.

    Err, they did exactly nothing. Well the French did something, they sold extra Exocet missiles to Argentina.

    Goodbye EU, you worthless stinking pool of piss.
    To be fair, the EU didn't exist in 1982. Had they existed, however, they would have done what they have done with every conflict since. Sod all.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    There WAS no EU when we were winning two world wars.

    Didn't they call it the Axis powers then?

    Axis powers - Wikipedia

    we need to get Japan & Thailand on board again!

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  • Yorkie62
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    They can "enhance" their "claim" all they want, but if their ships get too close then they will be joining the Belgrano.

    HTH

    They won't need to enhance their claim when Jezza is in No. 10. He will gladly hand them over, along with Gibraltar to Spain , and Northern Ireland to Ireland. Shortly followed by full independence for Scotland and Wales.

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  • Zigenare
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Yeah lots of appetite in 1938
    It is said that 99.7% of Austrians approved of the reunification - although it is also said that the vote may have been rigged.

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  • AtW
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    Yeah lots of appetite in 1938

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Great. Then why complain about EU not supporting it?
    I didn't.

    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    Two World Wars were enough to make EU lose appetite for it.
    There WAS no EU when we were winning two world wars.

    HTH

    Good to know they have our backs when the going gets tough. And a good thing for them that WE had an appetite in 1940.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by shaunbhoy View Post
    We didn't require NATO's support. We kicked their arses on our own after travelling halfway around the world to do it.
    Great. Then why complain about EU not supporting it?

    Two World Wars were enough to make EU lose appetite for it.

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  • shaunbhoy
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    It's NATO's job to provide "support" during attack on one of its members.
    We didn't require NATO's support. We kicked their arses on our own after travelling halfway around the world to do it.

    You don't tweak the Lion's tail without consequences..............you Russkies ought to know that.........

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by DimPrawn View Post
    How exactly did the EU "support" Britain during the Falklands conflict.
    It's NATO's job to provide "support" during attack on one of its members.

    France was rejoined NATO in 2009.

    Why didn't UK trigger article 5?

    "Because Article 5 does not cover the Falklands. Specifically, Article 5 is only operative north of the Tropic of Cancer."

    Why was article 5 of the NATO treaty not invoked when Argentina attacked the Falklands? - Quora

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