Reply to: Men with few qualifications 'most exposed to Brexit'

[darmstadt]

or until someone slips them a big enough brown envelope.

Didn't realise that BAE were part of the negotiations

[vetran]

Most of the EU don't want Turkey to join unless it meets all the criteria and sticks to them however there is one country that is pushing for Turkey to join and I wonder which one that is?

or until someone slips them a big enough brown envelope.

[Bean]

The only prominent EU politician who is obviously pushing for Turkish EU membership happens to be the great grandson of a cabinet minister of the Ottoman Empire. Boris Johnson says Britain will now help Turkey join EU despite using prospect to help win referendum

Yes, because;

[Old Greg]

Most of the EU don't want Turkey to join unless it meets all the criteria and sticks to them however there is one country that is pushing for Turkey to join and I wonder which one that is?

The only prominent EU politician who is obviously pushing for Turkish EU membership happens to be the great grandson of a cabinet minister of the Ottoman Empire. Boris Johnson says Britain will now help Turkey join EU despite using prospect to help win referendum

[northernladuk]

Most of the EU don't want Turkey to join unless it meets all the criteria and sticks to them however there is one country that is pushing for Turkey to join and I wonder which one that is?

Or offer to deal with EU's mess so it makes it worthwhile for the EU leaders to sweep the other criteria under a carpet which is what nearly happened.

[darmstadt]

They have but the comment about them wanting to join for years is totally correct.

Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Negotiations started in 2005.

A lot of people were very worried in 2016 with refugee agreement meant to speed the process up. From that you could surmise it was some intention from some areas that it was going to happen.

Sadly no one has the balls to say 'No. **** off'

Most of the EU don't want Turkey to join unless it meets all the criteria and sticks to them however there is one country that is pushing for Turkey to join and I wonder which one that is?

[northernladuk]

The process has been on hold since 2016.

Likely to happen? Er no. Not without Erdogan out, the reversal of his movement away from the EU and major political reform. Talks are on indefinite hold due concerns over the rule of law and human rights violations. Even then it would take decades. Turkey is just as likely to align itself with Russian hegemony. Serbia on target for accession in around 2025. Turkey is way way way behind that.

More likely is for you to admit you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

They have but the comment about them wanting to join for years is totally correct.

Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union

Negotiations started in 2005.

A lot of people were very worried in 2016 with refugee agreement meant to speed the process up. From that you could surmise it was some intention from some areas that it was going to happen.

Sadly no one has the balls to say 'No. **** off'

[NotAllThere]

Turkey has been trying to join for years.

The process has been on hold since 2016.

OK its not this week but it is very likely to happen.

Likely to happen? Er no. Not without Erdogan out, the reversal of his movement away from the EU and major political reform. Talks are on indefinite hold due concerns over the rule of law and human rights violations. Even then it would take decades. Turkey is just as likely to align itself with Russian hegemony. Serbia on target for accession in around 2025. Turkey is way way way behind that.

More likely is for you to admit you haven't a clue what you're talking about.

[vetran]

Unfortunately Turkey isn't Brexit fake news. Turkey has been trying to join for years.

OK its not this week but it is very likely to happen.

Point I was making was that there are so many other ways to get into the UK by bad people a few million cheap Turkish care workers are not that big a problem in reality.

Obviously too complex for the nobrainers.

[original PM]

Not so much.

Generally letting Turkey into the EU is just a 'bad idea'.

Whether it influenced people to vote Brexit in case Turkey were allowed in is possibly up for debate I guess.

[Old Greg]

Well you can't really call it fake news because it never happened so you don't know if it was fake. Based on the vastly incorrect numbers of migration from Poland, Romania etc you can't believe that any promises made would stick. The existing Tier system for non EU migrants wasn't supposed to lead to ILR but it's the defacto route now.
They'll come to visit and as soon as they hit the ground they'll be starting legal claims to stay or any reason under the sun. I bet it would be quite startling how many persecuted gay Turkish guys there are once this started.

Turkey isn't really a brexit topic though is it? No one in their right might can have thought this was a good idea whatever side of the fence you were on.

But Turkey is a fake news Brexit topic.

[northernladuk]

Darmstadt: the leave campaign posted fake news that there would be an influx of Turkish immigrants to the UK because of an EU agreement with Turkey. (The agreement, which isn't implemented yet, was for visa free travel to the EU for Turkish visitors - not the right to settle).

Well you can't really call it fake news because it never happened so you don't know if it was fake. Based on the vastly incorrect numbers of migration from Poland, Romania etc you can't believe that any promises made would stick. The existing Tier system for non EU migrants wasn't supposed to lead to ILR but it's the defacto route now.
They'll come to visit and as soon as they hit the ground they'll be starting legal claims to stay or any reason under the sun. I bet it would be quite startling how many persecuted gay Turkish guys there are once this started.

Turkey isn't really a brexit topic though is it? No one in their right might can have thought this was a good idea whatever side of the fence you were on.

[NotAllThere]

EU’s passport fraud ‘epidemic’ – POLITICO

Hmm. Once again vetran demonstrates his inability to string together a coherent argument.

Darmstadt: the leave campaign posted fake news that there would be an influx of Turkish immigrants to the UK because of an EU agreement with Turkey. (The agreement, which isn't implemented yet, was for visa free travel to the EU for Turkish visitors - not the right to settle).

Vetran: ah, it wasn't fake. Because there are many fake/stolen EU passports.

[BR14]

[vetran]

Ignore the Turkish, Irish & Venezuelan / Portuguese passports issued legally but inappropriately they are so many stolen anyway its all a bit moot.

EU’s passport fraud ‘epidemic’ – POLITICO

“Document fraud is an important enabler of organized crime and terrorism, clearly. There is a whole subset of criminal activity and a criminal sector that is involved in stealing passports and producing sophisticated passports and supplying them to the criminal market.” — Europol Director Rob Wainwright