Reply to: Without any sense of irony

[Bean]

If he was a rioter and he was attacking innocent people, property or the police, then he would deserve to be caught. I do not have a problem with that.

I have a problem with people who say "he was with other rioters" implying he was a rioter, or that because he was trying to get away from being involved in a riot, he somehow deserved it.


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If you had just replied with "Of course not", then my follow-up question would not have happened, but no, you decided to add in one of your comments that is written poorly grammatically, so that you can weasel your way out when someone challenges you - do you agree?

Here's a picture taken in a darkened London street of Ian Tomlinson with his face covered in the presence of other rioters:
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The person behind him with his face covered is not actually another rioter, but Simon Harwood.

Here's some video:

No I do not agree.
(Incidentally, I did reply 'of course not', then gave a scenario where the silent majority might back some police violence)

Given, that the Tomlinson incident happened in the day, and my 'IF scenario' was on 'a darkened London street' - why would you think I'm trying to refer to Tomlinson in my scenario? Is your comprehension that bad, or are you just that desperate to clutch to straws??

Seriously, have a reread of the thread without your bias against me - it's your misunderstanding, not me trying to misrepresent Tomlinson

[WTFH]

The IF scenario wasn't related to Tomlinson, you muppet of colossal proportions. It was a question, directed to you - care to answer it?

"IF however, in a darkened London street, with your face covered and in the presence of other rioters during a riot, then you could well expect some reasonable force to be applied to yourself, to ensure no breach of the peace, and for you to disperse from the area - or do you disagree with that? "

To answer your question (again), of course he didn't deserve that, as I told you originally, when I let you know your question was thoroughly stupid.

HTH BIDI

If he was a rioter and he was attacking innocent people, property or the police, then he would deserve to be caught. I do not have a problem with that.

I have a problem with people who say "he was with other rioters" implying he was a rioter, or that because he was trying to get away from being involved in a riot, he somehow deserved it.

IF however, in a darkened London street, with your face covered and in the presence of other rioters during a riot, then you could well expect some reasonable force to be applied to yourself, to ensure no breach of the peace, and for you to disperse from the area - or do you disagree with that?

If you had just replied with "Of course not", then my follow-up question would not have happened, but no, you decided to add in one of your comments that is written poorly grammatically, so that you can weasel your way out when someone challenges you - do you agree?

Here's a picture taken in a darkened London street of Ian Tomlinson with his face covered in the presence of other rioters:
[img][/img]

The person behind him with his face covered is not actually another rioter, but Simon Harwood.

Here's some video:

[Bean]

I’m not the one who said he was with “other rioters” or that he was “walking away” and therefore possibly deserved it, am I?

You haven’t clearly stated without adding in “IF”, or other excuses, that you 100% condemn his killing by the police.

The IF scenario wasn't related to Tomlinson, you muppet of colossal proportions. It was a question, directed to you - care to answer it?

"IF however, in a darkened London street, with your face covered and in the presence of other rioters during a riot, then you could well expect some reasonable force to be applied to yourself, to ensure no breach of the peace, and for you to disperse from the area - or do you disagree with that? "

To answer your question (again), of course he didn't deserve that, as I told you originally, when I let you know your question was thoroughly stupid.

HTH BIDI

[WTFH]

Someone doing his job (although walking away isn't selling newspapers), hence why your example and question were incredibly stupid, and not an apt analogy.

HTH

I’m not the one who said he was with “other rioters” or that he was “walking away” and therefore possibly deserved it, am I?

You haven’t clearly stated without adding in “IF”, or other excuses, that you 100% condemn his killing by the police.

[Bean]

Are you saying I’ve sunk to your level?

Dress it up however you desire. I'm glad you agree it is a thoroughly stupid question.

He may have been in the presence of rioters and protestors. Your use of the word “other” would imply that you think he was part of the group.

If someone is selling newspapers, is he an “other rioter” or someone doing his job?

Someone doing his job (although walking away isn't selling newspapers), hence why your example and question were incredibly stupid, and not an apt analogy.

HTH

[vetran]

You voted for them young man, not me. I saw through the lies, seems you and your ilk were not smart enough to work out the end result for yourself.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mat..._12191462.html

https://www.politico.eu/article/accu...ed-out-so-far/




Druncker still doesn't get it

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...claude-juncker

[Whorty]

Promises?....................made by Politicians?.......................FFS............ how spectacularly naive ARE you?

You voted for them young man, not me. I saw through the lies, seems you and your ilk were not smart enough to work out the end result for yourself.

[WTFH]

Of course not. What a thoroughly stupid question.

Are you saying I’ve sunk to your level?

IF however, in a darkened London street, with your face covered and in the presence of other rioters during a riot, then you could well expect some reasonable force to be applied to yourself, to ensure no breach of the peace, and for you to disperse from the area - or do you disagree with that?

He may have been in the presence of rioters and protestors. Your use of the word “other” would imply that you think he was part of the group.

If someone is selling newspapers, is he an “other rioter” or someone doing his job?

[shaunbhoy]

in the real world these are the promises made during the campaign.

Be interested to know which of these promises that you think are being delivered on.

Promises?....................made by Politicians?.......................FFS............ how spectacularly naive ARE you?

[Whorty]

Maybe in the La La Land that you inhabit, but in the UK we were never told any such thing.

But why let reality and fact get in the way of your distorted world view eh?

Or, in the real world these are the promises made during the campaign (dates and who made the promises all listed) ..... linky

But don't let the truth get in the way of your ignorance.

Be interested to know which of these promises that you think are being delivered on.

Edit: I expect you to come back with some bedwetting comment rather than answer the question as usual.

[shaunbhoy]

The populace were told Brexit would be an easy process and we'd get the best deal ever in no time at all.

Maybe in the La La Land that you inhabit, but in the UK we were never told any such thing.

But why let reality and fact get in the way of your distorted world view eh?

[Whorty]

In June 2016, a majority of the British voting public voted for the country to LEAVE the EU.




Indeed..................

Indeed ... a referendum based on lies.

The option was always

1) A Norway, Canada style agreement or/

2) Crash out

The populace were told Brexit would be an easy process and we'd get the best deal ever in no time at all. 2 years later and we're on the brink of crashing out and those with the least today will lose the most post Brexit.

I'm all for no deal, it's what the voting public deserve. A few hard years will maybe make people reflect how good we had it in Europe. Whether we ever vote to go back in, or remain stubborn and once again become the poor man of Europe (or more likely, the 51st state of the US and Trump's bitch) will remain to be seen.

In the meantime, I'll increase my property portfolio and look to take early retirement and live off the income. Watching from the sidelines could be fun

[shaunbhoy]

Then **** off...

We are..........

HTH

[Bean]

By the way, this is such a pathetic argument. What you are in effect saying is that the U.K. doesn’t give a stuff about the people of Catalan and would rather keep quiet in order to further it’s own economic interests.

That’s not the Britain I know, but it is the one that Brexit seems to have pushed certain people towards.

It is for similar reasons, why we (the UK) are relatively silent on Saudi Arabia - due to arms sales.....

If you're upset with that, I suggest you form a new political party

[darmstadt]

In June 2016, a majority of the British voting public voted for the country to LEAVE the EU.




Indeed..................

Then **** off...