Backtracking

[meridian]

The challenge is that we had control of our destiny, but the UK government refused to take control, instead they were too lazy and did a good PR job of blaming the EU for everything that was actually the UK government's fault.

... and the government had done such a good job of it, aided and encouraged by the MSM, that when the referendum was called they couldn’t very well go back and say that everything the had allowed to be blamed on the EU wasn’t actually true...

[Zigenare]

The challenge is that we had control of our destiny, but the UK government refused to take control, instead they were too lazy and did a good PR job of blaming the EU for everything that was actually the UK government's fault.

indeed.

[WTFH]

Not me mate, I relish the challenge! Wresting our destiny from the EU collective is exactly what I voted for.

The challenge is that we had control of our destiny, but the UK government refused to take control, instead they were too lazy and did a good PR job of blaming the EU for everything that was actually the UK government's fault.

[Zigenare]

This is such a precious quote. Even though we could have run our country differently, and we always had conroldo have control, then because we didn't take control that is someone else's fault. FFS, you Brexidiots don't like to take any responsibility for your own actions do you? Once we're out of the EU, and the UK is struggling, who will you blame next? The US, Russia, China, Gabon?!?

No wonder Brexidiots are not successful, its because life is sooooo hard and they never got the breaks, and it's all the other blokes fault

Not me mate, I relish the challenge! Wresting our destiny from the EU collective is exactly what I voted for.

[Whorty]

So it's the EU's fault for existing as much as it is the UK's fault for hiding behind it.

This is such a precious quote. Even though we could have run our country differently, and we always had conroldo have control, then because we didn't take control that is someone else's fault. FFS, you Brexidiots don't like to take any responsibility for your own actions do you? Once we're out of the EU, and the UK is struggling, who will you blame next? The US, Russia, China, Gabon?!?

No wonder Brexidiots are not successful, its because life is sooooo hard and they never got the breaks, and it's all the other blokes fault

[WTFH]

There seemed to be a certain amount of ennui around many things the UK did - which could be 'blamed' on the fact we were part of the EU and therefore did not have to put any effort in because we had an excuse to blame Europe (even if blaming Europe was incorrect).

So it's the EU's fault for existing as much as it is the UK's fault for hiding behind it.

I'm fairly much in agreement with you there. The existence of the EU made the UK fat and lazy. The UK has decided to run a marathon in a couple of years time but doesn't want to do any exercise because it didn't have to for a long time. The UK could have run a marathon while in the EU, but chose not to. It will never succeed in running a marathon until it starts to exercise and stops blaming the sofa for being comfortable.

[original PM]

Is it the EU's fault?

There seemed to be a certain amount of ennui around many things the UK did - which could be 'blamed' on the fact we were part of the EU and therefore did not have to put any effort in because we had an excuse to blame Europe (even if blaming Europe was incorrect).

So it's the EU's fault for existing as much as it is the UK's fault for hiding behind it.

[WTFH]

Because no one ever properly questioned it.

Is it the EU's fault?

[original PM]

So the question would be: why didn't the former home secretary set one previously?
There was nothing stopping her doing it.

Because no one ever properly questioned it.

[WTFH]

What in intelligent thing to do.

Set a limit - see what happens if needs be review and raise the limit.

Hardly rocket science and hardly controversial either.

So the question would be: why didn't the former home secretary set one previously?
There was nothing stopping her doing it.

[original PM]

What in intelligent thing to do.

Set a limit - see what happens if needs be review and raise the limit.

Hardly rocket science and hardly controversial either.

But obviously you can see this ability to bend with trends and react quickly to change as negative and not a positive.

[darmstadt]

More bloody foreigners: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44477095

‘Out means out’ I say - and if that means Leavers don’t get the treatment they need then what a wake up call that will be!