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  • vetran
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    we had a business update a few days ago.

    Largest problem raised about brexit was the inability to get cheap eastern European labour on the factory floor.
    Maybe they will get some ffin machines rather than us running round to fix all the feck ups!

    Oh Dear.

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  • m0n1k3r
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Because we have not invented time travel?

    You guys are supposed to be contractors.

    How many times do you go into a client to work on a change program and all you get met with is the existing management saying it will never work?
    Never. Because I never propose throwing our their existing ERP systems without a proper plan for replacement and migration. If I were to suggest that "trust me, it will all be alright in the end", I would get laughed at too.

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  • Whorty
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Because we have not invented time travel?

    You guys are supposed to be contractors.

    How many times do you go into a client to work on a change program and all you get met with is the existing management saying it will never work?

    When what they really mean is they have carved a comfy niche for themselves and spent a lot of time and energy get the current systems to where they are now and they can never be made any better?
    The change programmes I manage are based on sound analysis and factual research, not just rabid lies on the side of a bus. Change can be good, but changing for the sake of it rarely is. Think the AOL and TimeWarner merger - big change, didn't quite work out though did it.

    Another massive flop of a change was Marconi - it had a cushy number with defence contracts, then the Chairman had this brainwave in 1998 (if memory serves me well) to ditch the cash cow and move into the dot.com boom. And boom is what happened as the company imploded. See, just because someone tells you change is good, doesn't always mean it is - do the numbers and analysis to validate the change. Many didn't in the dot.com boom and many lost out. Same will happen here as the Brexit change is built on a foundation of sand and lies.

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  • woohoo
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    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
    Is that meant to be reassuring?
    tbh you guys seem to be flagging a bit, just doing my bit to encourage you.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    I think Brexit is going really well.
    The only thing that has so far been agreed on is the end of the transition deal (although even that looks in doubt, again.) Even the transition deal hasn't been agreed on yet...

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  • BlasterBates
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    I totally agree with woohoo.

    Brexit is going really well, as it isn't really happening.

    It's a bit like announcing you are going to jump off a cliff and then jumping up and down on top of the cliff and declaring that you've jumped off the cliff.

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    I think Brexit is going really well.
    Is that meant to be reassuring?

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    I think Brexit is going really well.
    That which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

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  • woohoo
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    I think Brexit is going really well.

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  • BlasterBates
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    Switzerland have customs controls, so not exactly no difference.

    Rumours abounding that Nissan planning on pulling out of Sunderland due to the probable supply chain issues (based on what the government is stating about SM+CU) making the plant inefficient in the future...
    In the end the UK government will broker a deal to ensure they stay:

    Japanese car companies apply thumbscrews to May and Hammond

    So watch for changes in "names" of things rather than substance. The UK may well go further than Switzerland in its ties to the EU through a "customs arrangement".

    My experience in Switzerland was that they were more or less left out of the supply chains, so the UK is more entwined with the EU.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
    I wouldn't get too worried, the UK is now clearly going to end up very like Switzerland where there is no difference between them and any other member of the EU.

    Switzerland have customs controls, so not exactly no difference.

    Rumours abounding that Nissan planning on pulling out of Sunderland due to the probable supply chain issues (based on what the government is stating about SM+CU) making the plant inefficient in the future...

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  • northernladyuk
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    More whinging from people that are just “afraid of change”.

    https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/articl...idUKKBN1HI0V7?
    They need to get with the Empire 2.0 programme and retool for jam, tea and biscuits.

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  • BlasterBates
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    I wouldn't get too worried, the UK is now clearly going to end up very like Switzerland where there is no difference between them and any other member of the EU.

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  • meridian
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    More whinging from people that are just “afraid of change”.

    https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/articl...idUKKBN1HI0V7?

    But Enders said Britain needed to go further. He called for Britain to remain part of the EU aviation safety certification agency, EASA, to allow Airbus's planes to gain the necessary approvals to let them fly, and said that its business depended on aircraft parts and people being able to move freely between its sites across the UK and Europe.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    You only have to do it if you accept this is all there ever is and nothing will change.

    How many times do you have to be told that for change you need to stop clinging to the past.
    Ffs, try ******* reading instead of blathering out your meaningless tripe.

    The assumption, based on how other non-EU countries work with the EU, is that there will be new regulatory requirements. The whole point of their issue is that things will change, and not for the better.

    How many times do you need to be told that Brexit introduces new barriers, not makes things easier?

    “Stop clinging to the past where things were frictionless and easy, accept that for me to have my blue passport it means more costs for you”.

    Brexiters. Right-wing socialists.

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