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Previously on "Black Ops Trade Talks"

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  • darmstadt
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    Or British meat:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...at-most-plants

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  • darmstadt
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    Or Mad Cows (which seems to have lingered on)

    What started with a single dead cow infected in 1984, led to one of the biggest food related dilemmas in the 1990s. BSE, or Mad Cow Disease, affects the nervous system and eventually kills the cow,however once infected the meat cannot be consumed. This led to 4.4 million cows being slaughtered, an EU ban on British beef exports for ten years from 1996 and its human counterpart, CJD allegedly killed over 220 people.
    And don't forget when the UK has a free trade agreement with countries such as China:

    Worldwide safety concerns were sparked when high levels of industrial chemical melamine was found in powdered and ordinary milk from leading companies across China. The scale of the problem was horrifying. At least six babies died and a further 300,000 were taken ill after drinking tainted milk. The scandal culminated in the bankruptcy of dairy suppliers the Sanlu Group and the sentencing of 21 executives and milk producers, two of whom were given the death penalty.
    ...
    China’s food problems didn’t end there. In 2011, watermelon farmers were perplexed when their fruit began exploding. It was thought the bizarre combustion was due to the use of a growth accelerator. The bizarre events masked more serious concerns about the country’s food supply chain with a catalogue of issues being exposed that year include toxic beansprouts, steroid-laced pork and meat which glowed in the dark.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    Or British chicken

    https://www.theguardian.com/business...d-safety-dates

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...gh-street.html

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    How does US chicken compare to say Thai chicken (often in tinned chicken products)?
    Not as good as Polish Beef

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...dal-meat-trade

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    If the US insists that their chicken and beef are fit for human consumption, how could the U.K. refuse? We need trade deals, and we will need to flex our regulations to meet the larger party’s demands. It’s not that far-fetched.

    Burying your head in the sand is no good, you voted for this.
    Which pretty much means either a hard border between Northern Ireland and Eire or NI remains in the customs union and with it, the single market and...oh...freedom of movement so that means a hard border between NI and the rest of the UK

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
    How does US chicken compare to say Thai chicken (often in tinned chicken products)?
    No idea. Do you have any links to any Food Safety or other government sites that indicate that there is a problem with Thai chicken?

    It’s not the chicken per se anyway though, it’s the wider concept of how the U.K. sees it’s food regulations diverging from the EU. Too much divergence in order to meet US requirements would mean cutting off the EU market for our food producers.

    A sensible government policy would see minimal divergence in order to minimise the impact on our primary producers. Politically though, they might see a US trade deal as something to win at all costs to show that we can do deals with one of the top three markets.

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  • PurpleGorilla
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    What makes you think all post-Brexit trade deals will come to Parliament for approval? Liam Fox is already known to have met the American participants, and the U.K. side (Legatum in particular) already have Tory MPs from ERG on their side.

    If the US insists that their chicken and beef are fit for human consumption, how could the U.K. refuse? We need trade deals, and we will need to flex our regulations to meet the larger party’s demands. It’s not that far-fetched.

    The Tories have already started planning to water down employment rights, why wouldn’t environmental rights be next?

    Burying your head in the sand is no good, you voted for this.
    How does US chicken compare to say Thai chicken (often in tinned chicken products)?

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Do you really see Parliament voting for that lot? Makes a good scare story though, doesn't it...
    What makes you think all post-Brexit trade deals will come to Parliament for approval? Liam Fox is already known to have met the American participants, and the U.K. side (Legatum in particular) already have Tory MPs from ERG on their side.

    If the US insists that their chicken and beef are fit for human consumption, how could the U.K. refuse? We need trade deals, and we will need to flex our regulations to meet the larger party’s demands. It’s not that far-fetched.

    The Tories have already started planning to water down employment rights, why wouldn’t environmental rights be next?

    Burying your head in the sand is no good, you voted for this.

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  • darmstadt
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    Originally posted by Mordac View Post
    Do you really see Parliament voting for that lot? Makes a good scare story though, doesn't it...
    This bunch will vote for anything if it promises a directorship at the end of their term

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  • Mordac
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    Chlorinated chicken, hormone infused beef, and a bonfire of employment and environmental regulations. It’s what we voted for, after all.

    https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/201...w-trade-talks/

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...8-IFT-FTA.html
    Do you really see Parliament voting for that lot? Makes a good scare story though, doesn't it...

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  • NotAllThere
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    Originally posted by meridian View Post
    Chlorinated chicken, hormone infused beef, and a bonfire of employment and environmental regulations. It’s what we voted for, after all.
    Werl, it's da will of de peeple, innit.

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  • meridian
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    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    Big business taking over your rights: Shadow Trade Talks | IFT
    Chlorinated chicken, hormone infused beef, and a bonfire of employment and environmental regulations. It’s what we voted for, after all.

    https://unearthed.greenpeace.org/201...w-trade-talks/

    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...8-IFT-FTA.html

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