Reply to: EU tells Britain it's living in 'fantasy land' over hopes for a 'basic' Brexit deal

[BR14]

strange we smacked their bottom last time...

are you all public schoolboys on this forum?- there's a lot of 'bottom smacking' and 'lubing up' bandied about 'round here

[vetran]

Germany and France put their foot down, pay up or else

The UK will have to roll over and have it's bottom smacked if it wants to continue.

strange we smacked their bottom last time...

[meridian]

So you have run out of arguments now? Can the UK take over existing EU trade agreements? - BBC News

The trade minister has asked and confirmed that the existing 60 agreements will be rolled over. - Clearly the UK can't agree this till the EU negotiation is completed and/or the UK leaves the EU as the UK government is still subject to the EU on trade policy.

Not quite true. Initial "back of a fag packet" discussions have been completed by the ex trade minister, but even Liam Fox admits that the job is nowhere near agreed, and that the third parties will put pressure on for changes to the agreements.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0d1cf6e91e4da

(Even your own link says "possible, but not automatic")

[Stevie Wonder Boy]

No it hasn't. You really are a dumb ******, aren't you?

So you have run out of arguments now? Can the UK take over existing EU trade agreements? - BBC News

The trade minister has asked and confirmed that the existing 60 agreements will be rolled over. - Clearly the UK can't agree this till the EU negotiation is completed and/or the UK leaves the EU as the UK government is still subject to the EU on trade policy.

[BlasterBates]

Germany and France put their foot down, pay up or else

The UK will have to roll over and have it's bottom smacked if it wants to continue.

[BrilloPad]

If we had sensible leadership the UK would just "drop the mic" now and get on with a WTO rules transition.

It would shut down the charade that the EU are negotiating with the UK. The civil service could get on with sorting out the post Brexit relationship with EU with a no deal. It would save whatever money the EU are demanding for the UK to leave and any transition sums + would allow the current work being done on a "deal" to be stopped. They could then get on with negotiating and lining up trade deals to start on the day the UK leaves.

+1000

[sasguru]

Interesting article, so the UK has already agreed transitional deals with 40 countries.

No it hasn't. You really are a dumb ******, aren't you?

[Stevie Wonder Boy]

Brexit news: South Korea want a speedy trade deal with UK - but there's a catch | UK | News | Express.co.uk

South Korea don't just want to continue the same trade deal they had with the EU with the UK after Brexit, now they're dealing with a "weaker" negotiating partner, they want concessions.

This means not only will the UK have a sh*ttier deal with the EU, they'll also have to sign 50 new sh*tty deals to boot.

oh dear.....

Anyway hopefully people are not put off too much by the smell of chlorine.

Interesting article, so the UK has already agreed transitional deals with 40 countries. Not clear what the South Koreans would want other than regulations on certificate of origin. I expect that relates to origin of goods assembled in the UK. Sort of like that Semi-conductor plant in Scotland that they built but never operated. Of course the EU had nothing to do with that ...

[Stevie Wonder Boy]

How is walking sooner helps? That would just make punishment much harsher

If we had sensible leadership the UK would just "drop the mic" now and get on with a WTO rules transition.

It would shut down the charade that the EU are negotiating with the UK. The civil service could get on with sorting out the post Brexit relationship with EU with a no deal. It would save whatever money the EU are demanding for the UK to leave and any transition sums + would allow the current work being done on a "deal" to be stopped. They could then get on with negotiating and lining up trade deals to start on the day the UK leaves.

[BlasterBates]

Brexit news: South Korea want a speedy trade deal with UK - but there's a catch | UK | News | Express.co.uk

South Korea don't just want to continue the same trade deal they had with the EU with the UK after Brexit, now they're dealing with a "weaker" negotiating partner, they want concessions.

This means not only will the UK have a sh*ttier deal with the EU, they'll also have to sign 50 new sh*tty deals to boot.

oh dear.....

Anyway hopefully people are not put off too much by the smell of chlorine.

[BrilloPad]

Brexiter/Bremoaner(delete as appropriate).

You are all cretins. blah blah blah.....

HTH BISDI

[Whorty]

How is walking sooner helps? That would just make punishment much harsher

Don't try logic with the dimwits, you'll just confuse them

[darmstadt]

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ocondescension

[BrilloPad]

Iraq War: Gordon Brown says UK 'misled' over WMDs - BBC News

Another case where countries lie to each other.

[BrilloPad]

DP is saying that EU is out to punish Britain - regardless. AtW's post says that the EU will not have a "no-deal" deal, in the event of ...er... no deal. In the event of a no deal the relationship between the EU and Britain will not be amicable. Britain not paying the bills the EU deem due is something that cannot be ignored when it comes to relations. It will cause problems. But that's no because of any particular intent of the EU to punish Britain, but the way things work internationally when you renege on you obligations.

Whether Britain actually owes anything is moot. The EU thinks Britain does and will act accordingly. It's more akin to "if you put your hand on a hotplate, you will be burned", than "if you don't do what you're told I'll give you a thick ear".

We are not talking about children here. We are talking about a sovereign state.

I do agree that the UK has behaved badly in the negotiations though. The EU said "we will discuss x and only y and z when we are ready". The UK went along with this. They should not have done so.

Many countries renage on their obligations. Arguably most EU countries renaged on their obligations to the EU apart from the UK. The UK should have ignored more EU rules.

Sadly the UK does not look after itself enough. Probably due to the PMs the UK has had since Maggie left.

When I am PM its going to be very different....