Something like SJD in Switzerland?

[BlasterBates]

It's very unusual not to work through payroll

Coming from outside Switzerland it is effectively your only option.

Take home taking into account everything including payroll charges is typically 65-70%. On top of that add health insurance which cost me 130 CHF a month.

Even if you are Swiss resident some large companies wouldn't accept you unless you are payrolled. It is possible to set up a Swiss company but it isn't easy.

If you are commuting there is CHF 1500 tax free allowance provided you can demonstrate you are paying a mortgage or rent. This brings you closer to 70% take home.

[Magpie252]

Well, i haven't considered this payroll thing. They offered me 800 CHF/day, but it doesn't sound as good if i have to tax half of it. Not speaking about living expenses....

If your working through a Swiss agent, I'd expect them to provide payroll services as part of their margin cut

So assuming 800CHF is net, your costs would look something like this:

Employers tax contributions -9%
Employers pension -450CHF

Gives Gross Salary

Old age insurance -5.15%
Job insurance -1.1% on first 10500CHF, 0.5% after
Accident insurance -1.105% on first 10500CHF, 0.3485% after
Tax at source (depends on canton & is progressive i.e. you pay more tax in a 21 day month v 20 day month) somewhere between 18 & 23%
Employee pension -450CHF

You agent should have done an example payroll for you, ask them

- be aware of your UK tax liabilities if your not out of the country for the full year
800CHF is just about workable if your carfull i.e. rent an apparment, eat in most nights, fly easyjet etc

[gabox01]

All that comes out of your own pocket apart from flight in and flight out at the end of the contract AIUI.

I'm sure you've searched and read the many CH threads on here and seen it's phenomenally expensive over there so make sure the rate is a good one.

Well, i haven't considered this payroll thing. They offered me 800 CHF/day, but it doesn't sound as good if i have to tax half of it. Not speaking about living expenses....

[stek]

Is payroll the only way to go?
I mean it would be nice to claim some expenses, like traveling, and accomodation.

All that comes out of your own pocket apart from flight in and flight out at the end of the contract AIUI.

I'm sure you've searched and read the many CH threads on here and seen it's phenomenally expensive over there so make sure the rate is a good one.

[gabox01]

Is payroll the only way to go?
I mean it would be nice to claim some expenses, like traveling, and accomodation.

[The Spartan]

Excuse me the dumb question but Payroll = Umbrella or something completely different?

It's virtually the same just a lot more expensive in terms of what they charge

[cojak]

Read this:

Go to English Forum Switzerland and read the sticky posts carefully. You cannot work via your UK ltd co if you are resident in Switzerland.

Take home on 10'000 CHF gross, is ~1'200 CHF in Zürich. However, in common with brollies in the UK, out of your 10'000 CHF, you must also pay employer's social contributions, pension, various insurances and the brolly fee.

Read this thread carefully: Average tax - English Forum Switzerland

[gabox01]

Excuse me the dumb question but Payroll = Umbrella or something completely different?

[cojak]

Yep - this info is 11 years old(!) but still applies as far as I'm aware... http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...itzerland.html

[The Spartan]

Unless you have 50K then you're allowed to register a GmBH, there are plenty of payroll companies and they all charge over the £600 mark it was one of the things I hated most about working in Zurich.

[stek]

In Switzerland you have to go by a local payroll company.

[gabox01]

Hi,

I like these straightforward monthly flat rate accountant services in the UK like SJD, where every aspect of the paperwork is taken care of.
I've been recently offered a role in Switzerland, and since I have no experience working there, i'm looking for something similar like SJD to do the heavy lifting.

Requirements:
-They should be able to create my limited/umbrella
-They provide registered office address service
-They open business bank account for me
-They advise me on tax
-And do the accounting of course

I tried to google for such thing, but no success.