Reply to: Newbie - Refusing contract extension

[rd409]

Sounds like a win all round - especially for the agency

Good that you've reduced that risk and kept the contract though, although I'd next be looking to reduce the agency margin since they are doing absolutely nothing (compared to the next to nothing that they were doing before!)

Would the agency refuse reducing the margin saying that they still have to do the same work as before, so no difference in margins

Some agencies are up the creek tbh.

[TheFaQQer]

Hello,

I just wanted to give an update on how the situation was sorted out in the end. Since I wanted to avoid leaving the client (and the client wanted to avoid me leaving), we could set up an arrangement where my payroll company was invoicing directly my client and then paying me and paying the Agency their margin.

So basically everybody is making the same money than before but the flow of money have changed. Let's see how this works from now on...

Thanks to everybody for the advice provided

Sounds like a win all round - especially for the agency

Good that you've reduced that risk and kept the contract though, although I'd next be looking to reduce the agency margin since they are doing absolutely nothing (compared to the next to nothing that they were doing before!)

[LondonTube]

Hello,

I just wanted to give an update on how the situation was sorted out in the end. Since I wanted to avoid leaving the client (and the client wanted to avoid me leaving), we could set up an arrangement where my payroll company was invoicing directly my client and then paying me and paying the Agency their margin.

So basically everybody is making the same money than before but the flow of money have changed. Let's see how this works from now on...

Thanks to everybody for the advice provided

[northernladuk]

What, to ATW?

Ouch, that stings....

[psychocandy]

I was assuming that was a given but there is nothing wrong with advising all parties that you won't be taking it if they mentioned extensions or you know the work isn't finished.

Which is why in this instance I would discuss with client and not leave them in the lurch. I think OP has already done that.

Don't see I have any responsibilities towards the agent at all. Especially if treated badly as the OP has.
If they can't even do their job and get in touch to discuss contract extension then thats their problem.

[northernladuk]

How is it being unprofessional?

You're contract until end date. If you choose not to continue after this date, and choose not to negotiate a contract then whats the problem?

If you don't know then explaining it to you won't make a difference.

[psychocandy]

That's right, fight unprofessionalism with unprofessionalism. That's the way to go everytime

How is it being unprofessional?

You're contract until end date. If you choose not to continue after this date, and choose not to negotiate a contract then whats the problem?

[moggy]

You are slipping my dear boy, at this rate you will lost your personality of the year crown!

What, to ATW?

[northernladuk]

Is it worth pointing out that nobody actually needs to give notice if all that's happening is that the contract has run out of time, since both sides kinda knew that from the start....?

I was assuming that was a given but there is nothing wrong with advising all parties that you won't be taking it if they mentioned extensions or you know the work isn't finished.

[malvolio]

Is it worth pointing out that nobody actually needs to give notice if all that's happening is that the contract has run out of time, since both sides kinda knew that from the start....?

[LondonTube]

Hang on, to save a months invoice you are willing to place 6 months worth of invoices in jeopardy with an agent you thing have cash flow problems?!

Lol, of course not! But what I want to avoid, since this agency seems so unreliable (and I would say that probable very dishonest) is to get in legal trouble for not giving notice for any type of clause I might be missing in my contract or any law I might be unaware of.

Certainly there is no chance I extend this contract with this recruiters exactly because of what you said! I am sorry if I did not explain things properly before.

About what Psychocandy said, I have to say that despite of not being very proffesional I would love to do that, since this agency simply takes advantage of your honesty to use it against you. But also I do not want to enter in that game. I have never worked with any employer that way and I do not want to start doing so. I simply will finish my contract, refuse any type of renewal and move on. And never again work with this agency, of course.

[northernladuk]

You are slipping my dear boy, at this rate you will lost your personality of the year crown!

If I could understand what that sentence means I would agree

[SimonMac]

LOL +1 to that. Funny how with so many posts nowadays, a couple of pertinent points come out when we start digging.

Forget my post and get the **** out of that one fast.

You are slipping my dear boy, at this rate you will lost your personality of the year crown!

[northernladuk]

Keep the client happy like you're doing. Its not their fault and you might want to go back there one day.

As for the agent, I'd be tempted to not say anything to them at all, especially since they've not even chased the extension. Just don't turn up on the monday.

When they phone, tell them you thought it was all finished, and you;re working somewhere else now. Will be funny.

That's right, fight unprofessionalism with unprofessionalism. That's the way to go everytime

[northernladuk]

Hang on, to save a months invoice you are willing to place 6 months worth of invoices in jeopardy with an agent you thing have cash flow problems?!

LOL +1 to that. Funny how with so many posts nowadays, a couple of pertinent points come out when we start digging.

Forget my post and get the **** out of that one fast.