Reply to: parking tickets & Fines - allowable expense?

[css_jay99]

I use the parking meters daily at the train station and obviously dont get a receipt.. it costs me £3 perday.

Can I claim for these even without receipt ?


css_jay99

[lORD lUCAN]

Yes you can challenge it, but after several weeks most people give up. After all, it's my word against the wardens that I was parked in a P&D bay as opposed to a residents permit bay. And Camden is famous for it's ambiguous signs - I pointed out a few and they were still there years later. The system is designed to be as confusing as possible, in the hope that people just pay the £50 and be done with it.
Thankfully the NewLie (or is it OldLie) scum got kicked out on the back of it.

I just so happened to be doing some contracting work Grays Council not so long ago, can't remember the exact name of the department (traffic or something along those lines), but basically they worked on fixed penalty appeals. Now to say these people are heartless is one thing, but when you realise its a them us scenario you can sort of understand why they are the way they are.

The day I was there, one of the (more attractive) if there is such a thing, traffic wardens had been brought back to the office by the police, apparently
she'd been shot in the leg with an air rifle (this is Grays remember), and there'd also been several incidents of different assaults in the same week.

But anyway, appeals are always turned down, its a no win no win situation.
You would need to come up with a serious amount of bs to get out of one.
I was issued a fixed penalty while my missus was in labour, still had to pay
sadistic bast*rds

[Mordac]

If you're legally parked and get a ticket you can challenge it.

If you genuinely can't understand the signs, then they are almost certainly invalid, and not enforceable.

Yes you can challenge it, but after several weeks most people give up. After all, it's my word against the wardens that I was parked in a P&D bay as opposed to a residents permit bay. And Camden is famous for it's ambiguous signs - I pointed out a few and they were still there years later. The system is designed to be as confusing as possible, in the hope that people just pay the £50 and be done with it.
Thankfully the NewLie (or is it OldLie) scum got kicked out on the back of it.

[TheMonkey]

Count yourself lucky your car wasn't clamped and/or removed.

They were working on that one! They did that when I was driving a Land Rover 110 which ironically broke their truck. Ha ha ha.

[SameOldStory]

In Camden you can be perfectly legally parked and get a ticket. It's happened to me several times. They also make the parking signs so fiendishly difficult to understand that they get all the tourists and foreigners. The parking wardens definitely can't understand them (or indeed basic English) so the innocent motorist gets fecked over. It's almost certainly the reason Liebour lost Camden.

If you're legally parked and get a ticket you can challenge it.

If you genuinely can't understand the signs, then they are almost certainly invalid, and not enforceable.

[swamp]

Talking of which, some absolute insanely anal BASTARD got me in Camden yesterday for going 2 minutes over the paid for hour (ironically being 2 minutes late because some tosser parking attendant had crashed his moped and caused the pavement to be blocked for ages).

Count yourself lucky your car wasn't clamped and/or removed.

[MrsGoof]

According to my watch, I had 2 minutes to go. My watch is the same time the BBC have.

they run on LCT not BBC time

LCT = Local Camden Time

[TheMonkey]

Why not try parking legally before grumbling about getting a ticket?

According to my watch, I had 2 minutes to go. My watch is the same time the BBC have.

[Mordac]

Why not try parking legally before grumbling about getting a ticket?

In Camden you can be perfectly legally parked and get a ticket. It's happened to me several times. They also make the parking signs so fiendishly difficult to understand that they get all the tourists and foreigners. The parking wardens definitely can't understand them (or indeed basic English) so the innocent motorist gets fecked over. It's almost certainly the reason Liebour lost Camden.

[ClarissaG]

Why not try parking legally before grumbling about getting a ticket?

[css_jay99]

Talking of which, some absolute insanely anal BASTARD got me in Camden yesterday for going 2 minutes over the paid for hour (ironically being 2 minutes late because some tosser parking attendant had crashed his moped and caused the pavement to be blocked for ages).

What do you expect from a borough that gives its attendants cars for a job well done !

I got ticketed same road twice last month because I had two wheels on the curb.
I now put the yellow ticket cover with a cardbord on my dashboard with the word F###ING BA###RDS written on it

they are scum !

[Pondlife]

Talking of which, some absolute insanely anal BASTARD got me in Camden yesterday for going 2 minutes over the paid for hour (ironically being 2 minutes late because some tosser parking attendant had crashed his moped and caused the pavement to be blocked for ages).

It's only fair

[TheMonkey]

Talking of which, some absolute insanely anal BASTARD got me in Camden yesterday for going 2 minutes over the paid for hour (ironically being 2 minutes late because some tosser parking attendant had crashed his moped and caused the pavement to be blocked for ages).

[Pondlife]

You come back 5 hours over your limit to a car parking fine.

It does seem a bit unreasonable that this should be a personal liability.

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So, if you do get a ticket put it through and see what your accountant says. [Mine said no but YMMV].

I suppose if you had a receipt from NCP for £xx it wouldn't really matter that some of it was a penalty - it's all just parking charges.

A ticket from a traffic warden would be different.

[xoggoth]

Penalties by the state (inc local government) are not claimable. Not sure that applies to penalties by private companies, NCP and and so on.