Reply to: Self-billing and rounding

[TheFaQQer]

Sorted.

If a system is broken ... abuse it. Basic principle of hacking.

In this case, make the rounding work my way.

Last two weeks I submitted timesheets totalling x hours and 40 minutes. 40 minutes got rounded to .67 (from .66666666 etc.)

So MyLtdCo got 25p too much!

So, every month, I shall do 10 or 40 minutes over the hour and let them diddle themselves for 25p each time. £3 to MyLtdCo over a year.

Possibly one of the smallest victories in the world, ever. But I shall do it by abusing their crappiness.

One to me, methinks.

Thinks ... after taking off VAT and tax, it works out to about £1.53 take-home. If I make it to 12 months, I shall have to go to Wetherspoons and buy myself a pint, paid for out of recruitment agency incompetence!

I like the thinking.

I little @n@l, but if you can exploit the loophole, you may as well

[BrilloPad]

At ClientCo I get paid for a full day no matter how many days I work. I regularly take a half day - I still get paid for a full day.

[thunderlizard]

That's a better attitude.
Or you could just bill to the nearest 15 minutes - or 6 minutes if you prefer. That way you'd get to spend more time doing chargeable work than timesheeting it.

[BrowneIssue]

Sorted.

If a system is broken ... abuse it. Basic principle of hacking.

In this case, make the rounding work my way.

Last two weeks I submitted timesheets totalling x hours and 40 minutes. 40 minutes got rounded to .67 (from .66666666 etc.)

So MyLtdCo got 25p too much!

So, every month, I shall do 10 or 40 minutes over the hour and let them diddle themselves for 25p each time. £3 to MyLtdCo over a year.

Possibly one of the smallest victories in the world, ever. But I shall do it by abusing their crappiness.

One to me, methinks.

Thinks ... after taking off VAT and tax, it works out to about £1.53 take-home. If I make it to 12 months, I shall have to go to Wetherspoons and buy myself a pint, paid for out of recruitment agency incompetence!

[NotAllThere]

That's me... now edited in the cold light of day.

[NickFitz]

<post rescinded in recognition of NAT's honourable amendment of his post>

[NotAllThere]

Yep. I can only assume that the OP is insanely bored.

[tim123]

Yep. As instructed by the contract.

The contract says that you have to work a number of minutes that doesn't become an exact decimal party of an hour?

What a strange contract.

tim

[NotAllThere]

WTF is bathroom time? I'm not a miner - it's an office job. I don't get that dirty. I just have a shower each morning when I get up.

Bathroom is an American euphemism for toilet.

[BrowneIssue]

Eh?

You're billing the client in minutes that don't become an exact 2dp decimal hour (hint, every third one does).

Yep. As instructed by the contract.

Are you counting this time from: (a)when you switch your PC off, (b)when you leave the desk, (c) when you leave the office. You could be losing a few minutes pay each day by counting (a) instead of (c), I'm sure no-one would notice.

Because I'm a numpty, it's time spent working, as opposed to on-site.

Do you remember to subtract you bathroom time each day?

WTF is bathroom time? I'm not a miner - it's an office job. I don't get that dirty. I just have a shower each morning when I get up.

Oh, I know how to solve your problem. If you use the seconds as well you will get a more exact decimal representation each day and you will lose less money.

Can't. The contract doesn't work that way, nor does the agency.

HTH

tim

Not really, and you could have saved yourself some time by just saying:

Q2 Yes.

or were you just padding out your time to the next multiple of 15 minutes?

[NickFitz]

I just got my first payment from my new gig. I thought I'd let the agent go self-billing since they insisted and a bit of research on here said others are doing it just fine.

This is going to sound really, really petty but...

The agency is converting my timesheet hours and minutes to decimal hours and rounding to 2 decimal places. I've been diddled out of 26p.

(Solution: I shall carry spare minutes over to "next week" on each timesheet in future.)

Q1. Am I right to be a little bit niggled?

Q2. Am I being the most picky, annoying git ever?

If on an hourly rate I always work on the principle of charging by the quarter-hour or part thereof - sorted

[tim123]

I just got my first payment from my new gig. I thought I'd let the agent go self-billing since they insisted and a bit of research on here said others are doing it just fine.

This is going to sound really, really petty but...

The agency is converting my timesheet hours and minutes to decimal hours and rounding to 2 decimal places. I've been diddled out of 26p.

(Solution: I shall carry spare minutes over to "next week" on each timesheet in future.)

Eh?

You're billing the client in minutes that don't become an exact 2dp decimal hour (hint, every third one does).

Are you counting this time from: (a)when you switch your PC off, (b)when you leave the desk, (c) when you leave the office. You could be losing a few minutes pay each day by counting (a) instead of (c), I'm sure no-one would notice.

Do you remember to subtract you bathroom time each day?

Oh, I know how to solve your problem. If you use the seconds as well you will get a more exact decimal representation each day and you will lose less money.

HTH

tim

[malvolio]

..snip..

Q1. Am I right to be a little bit niggled?

Q2. Am I being the most picky, annoying git ever?

A1. No - but it's good you're aware enough to notice

A2. No, they banned her. You're getting close though

[BrowneIssue]

Just work on a day rate.

Sorted.

The client said "There's likely to be loads of overtime, so in your case we'll make it an hourly rate just to be fair."


(And I've been shafted by clients when on day rates so I don't like 'em any more.)

[Sockpuppet]

Just work on a day rate.

Sorted.