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Originally posted by Rik1087 View Post
slumming it in the premier inns it’s is
In terms of VfM, I had to book into the Great Eastern in Liverpool St once at very short notice. £180 for a room where the single bed was half the width of the room and I could barely fit in the shower, then they wanted £38 for breakfast... Give me a tulipty Premier Inn any day.
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on the plus side, you can claim the full rate, spend less, and make a profit.
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Originally posted by wattaj View Post
Would love to see what's been billed so far without the cap.
mots good to hear this is the new norm.
slumming it in the premier inns it’s is
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Seems the new norm. The last three clients I've had have expenses included in the rate but to be fair non needed much travelling.
Are these expenses to attend their main site or other offices/locations? I've yet to find a client that allows expenses to attend their site with the hybrid way.Last edited by northernladuk; 14 August 2023, 13:26.
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Originally posted by Rik1087 View Post1. £200 extra day to cover hotel & evening meal
2. outside IR35
3. Struggling to find hotels in central London under £200 a night.
fair points regarding negotiations. It’s probably pointing more towards sucking it up at the moment.
I just didn’t know if this was common practice where the client could dictate what could or how much can be charged or not charged in this instance.
And if you prefer nicer accommodation, you can claim against your own company.
FFS - I can book a Premier Inn at Tower bridge, to stop tonight for one night, for <£140. What more do you want? The Ritz?Last edited by Lance; 14 August 2023, 12:48.
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1. £200 extra day to cover hotel & evening meal
2. outside IR35
3. Struggling to find hotels in central London under £200 a night.
fair points regarding negotiations. It’s probably pointing more towards sucking it up at the moment.
I just didn’t know if this was common practice where the client could dictate what could or how much can be charged or not charged in this instance.
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what is the rate they are offering?
Are you inside or outside IR35?
Can you arrive early on day 1, stay late on day 2, and not have to be onsite a 3rd day?
Can you find cheaper digs (there are usually options)?
The thing is though, you have just two choices:
1) Suck it up
2) say you need more.
Just be prepared to walk away if they refuse to pay more. And actually do walk away. There's no point starring a negotiation you intend to lose.
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Flat rate expenses
Hi All,
after some advise, I have been contracting with the same client for a fair amount of time, and along with my day rate for monthly invoices I have been submitting an invoice for hotels and evening meals for overnight stays (the usual costs incurred for me supplying my services).
however, this latest renewal the client is introducing a flat rate of X amount on top of my usual day rate to incorporate any hotel / overnight charge.
I understand the need for greater financial control, but put simply the flat rate is so low that I will be out of pocket if I need to stay overnight (currently 2 nights a week).
has anyone had this before with a client? Did you negotiate a higher flat rate? Or did you simply state this is a business to business relationship and therefore the costs for my services are the costs of my services?Tags: None
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