Reply to: Up t date data on buying a electric company car for BIK

[Paralytic]

And that OP sells something he doesn't understand, but that's common enough everywhere.

I disagree, he knows exactly what he is selling: FUD.

[Lance]

Statements about electric cars not giving out EMF mentioned are completely wrong though.

The point was that batteries don't give off EMF. The motors will but not much.
And that OP sells something he doesn't understand, but that's common enough everywhere.

[SuperLooper]

Any health risk from electric car EMF emissions is utterly minuscule compared to the well-documented and devastating health impact of internal combustion emissions.

If I'm sat in my electric car, the fumes from the diesel car in front of me are killing me thousands of times more quickly than the spooky battery waves under my seat.

[northernladuk]

To be fair to gooddayall he has got something of a point. It's arguably a bit tin hat but it's there. Statements about electric cars not giving out EMF mentioned are completely wrong though. Oddly enough it does look like something that might be bubbling away in the background...

Electromagnetic Radiation Safety: Hybrid & Electric Cars: Electromagnetic Radiation Risks

That said there are some fairly solid conclusions here. Near the bottom one test says an average hybrid gives off 2-4 mG compared to personal computers 2 to 20 mG, electric blankets 5 to 30 mG, and a hair dryer 10 to 70 mG. Full electric appears to be 14-30 mG.

But.. Further down it states..

“The Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Agency (ARPANSA) recommends a limit of 1,000 mG (milligauss) for a 24 hour exposure period. While other guidelines pose similar limits, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) deemed extended exposure to electromagnetic fields stronger than 2 mG to be a “possible cause” for cancer.

For now it appears not to be a risk as the car will run out before you are exposed to that but you've got to wonder what the future holds.

The very bottom paragraph talks about no set limits or standards for testing so I would take a guess as the power and range of the batteries increases this will be looked at.

So gooddayall kinda has a point(ish)

[Lance]

You might be referring to cosmic emfs - but those levels are much tinier than human made ones.

hahaha. Cosmic fooking EMF.....


No. I was thinking of that dirty great nuclear fusion reactor at the centre of the solar system.
The one that sprays the earth with over 1,000 W/m2.. That's over 1 kW per squre meter.
None of this uW or mW nonsense from a mobile phone.

That's a factor of up to 10^9 greater (that's a LOT by the way).

[gooddayall]

FTFY


sounds like you don't know what EMF is at all.

Question... what's the biggest source of EMF radation that humans are exposed to daily?

You might be referring to cosmic emfs - but those levels are much tinier than human made ones.

[wattaj]

u will be sitting in alot of EMF radiation from the batteries along with the 5g craze

also one or two batteries exploded - google it.

Oh dear Gods! I keep my phone down the front of my trousers as I detest the feeling of cold glass against my ear; should I be concerned?

[Lance]

fine I don't know about low level EMFs, nor much in depth about high level emfs - but blah blah blah blah blah

FTFY


sounds like you don't know what EMF is at all.

Question... what's the biggest source of EMF radation that humans are exposed to daily?

[SuperLooper]

I sell EMF protection products

[GhostofTarbera]

fine I don't know about low level EMFs, nor much in depth about high level emfs - but I happen to be commercially involved and I sell EMF protection products and I do know the safe levels for RF EMFs. Maybe you want to google why Wi Fi is illegal in schools in France. Also a home/car router can equal cell tower radiation ( at 200 meters distance ) and those are sick levels. And 5g basically multiples the bandwidth / number of emitters. This means more energy than conventional 4g.

RF Color Charts Summarizing Several Studies - BioInitiative Report 2012

Have you got a tin foil hat ?


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[gooddayall]

You don't get EMF from a DC battery.
There will be some from the motors as they generate torque, but all that EMF is directed into moving magnets round.

The jury's still out on 5G, but given your distinct lack of understanding of what EMF is, please understand I'll not be taking any notice of your warning

As for 'exploding'... do you mean explode, or caught fire? One kills you straight away, the other is a hazard but usually not fatal.

fine I don't know about low level EMFs, nor much in depth about high level emfs - but I happen to be commercially involved and I sell EMF protection products and I do know the safe levels for RF EMFs. Maybe you want to google why Wi Fi is illegal in schools in France. Also a home/car router can equal cell tower radiation ( at 200 meters distance ) and those are sick levels. And 5g basically multiples the bandwidth / number of emitters. This means more energy than conventional 4g.

RF Color Charts Summarizing Several Studies - BioInitiative Report 2012

[SuperLooper]

u will be sitting in alot of EMF radiation from the batteries along with the 5g craze

also one or two batteries exploded - google it.

Oh good grief.

[Lance]

u will be sitting in alot of EMF radiation from the batteries along with the 5g craze

also one or two batteries exploded - google it.

You don't get EMF from a DC battery.
There will be some from the motors as they generate torque, but all that EMF is directed into moving magnets round.

The jury's still out on 5G, but given your distinct lack of understanding of what EMF is, please understand I'll not be taking any notice of your warning

As for 'exploding'... do you mean explode, or caught fire? One kills you straight away, the other is a hazard but usually not fatal.

[gooddayall]

u will be sitting in alot of EMF radiation from the batteries along with the 5g craze

also one or two batteries exploded - google it.

[Mordac]

If you buy an electric car make sure you buy a cordless version

And remember to keep some reading matter in the car at all times, for those occasions when you won't be going anywhere for quite a while. 'The Lord of the Rings' trilogy and 'War and Peace' will do you for the first month or so...