These guys are offering 90% take home.

[Iliketax]

Set up ScamCo 2, different phone number/email/website, but promising the earth again.

You don't need to change the phone number.

https://forums.contractoruk.com/umbr...ml#post1967407

Phone number of that is: 020 7788 7766 (and the name of the company on that website does not tie up with the name of one at Companies House)

But by searching that phone number you find: https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/l...rim-consultant

Which is this disolved company https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06896843

Then by searching on the post code, you find many companies there: https://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/find?q=CT1+3HG

Which then takes you back to Zoe and others with similar surnames: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06764080 as well as a few other familiar names (e.g. Jeremy).

[DaveB]

It isn't going to make any difference though is it? The spam will just be administrated off shore? And I suppose the side benefit is that I am made aware of the state of the art amongst these scams.

It will because even if the processing takes place offshore, if the data relates to individuals resident in the EU then the regulations apply and they can be prosecuted. Might not make it easy but it is still possible. It also means you can make Subject Access Requests, request they tell you their Legal Basis for processing, request they stop processing your data etc and report them to the ICO if they don't comply.

GDPR Article 3 Para. (2)

This Regulation applies to the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or processor not established in the Union, where the processing activities are related to:
the offering of goods or services, irrespective of whether a payment of the data subject is required, to such data subjects in the Union; or
the monitoring of their behaviour as far as their behaviour takes place within the Union.

Recital 23

In order to ensure that natural persons are not deprived of the protection to which they are entitled under this Regulation, the processing of personal data of data subjects who are in the Union by a controller or a processor not established in the Union should be subject to this Regulation where the processing activities are related to offering goods or services to such data subjects irrespective of whether connected to a payment. 2In order to determine whether such a controller or processor is offering goods or services to data subjects who are in the Union, it should be ascertained whether it is apparent that the controller or processor envisages offering services to data subjects in one or more Member States in the Union. 3Whereas the mere accessibility of the controller’s, processor’s or an intermediary’s website in the Union, of an email address or of other contact details, or the use of a language generally used in the third country where the controller is established, is insufficient to ascertain such intention, factors such as the use of a language or a currency generally used in one or more Member States with the possibility of ordering goods and services in that other language, or the mentioning of customers or users who are in the Union, may make it apparent that the controller envisages offering goods or services to data subjects in the Union.

[Fred Bloggs]

To my mind part of the problem is that they won't be in business for long.

Set up ScamCo 1. Promise the earth. Get lots of punters. Telling clients to just pocket all the cash and everything is fine. After about 2 years, clients will start getting enquiries. Disband ScamCo 1, leaving clients in the poop.

Set up ScamCo 2, different phone number/email/website, but promising the earth again.

Rinse and repeat.

It's a down side of limited liability. Basically you can set up company after company that diddles people, each time running off with the cash. It's very expensive to try to pin this on any of the directors, which is what they'll rely on.

Sure, I know, but to clarify, I meant that there are still enough gullible/greedy/naive people out there who still believe in these fairy tales enough to actually sign up. Enough people to make it lucrative enough to do the rinse and repeat thing. I mean, you do not have to be Sherlock Holmes to deduce that these people are simply unscrupulous scammers hell bent on ripping people off.

[Maslins]

Despite me complaining several times, a very high profile recruitment website insists on spamming me with pay schemes aimed squarely at contractors. This is the latest one received a few minutes ago. They promise 90% take home in the spam email, I continue to be amazed that these people are still in business and that folks must still be signing up. What can possibly go wrong? Caveat emptor.

To my mind part of the problem is that they won't be in business for long.

Set up ScamCo 1. Promise the earth. Get lots of punters. Telling clients to just pocket all the cash and everything is fine. After about 2 years, clients will start getting enquiries. Disband ScamCo 1, leaving clients in the poop.

Set up ScamCo 2, different phone number/email/website, but promising the earth again.

Rinse and repeat.

It's a down side of limited liability. Basically you can set up company after company that diddles people, each time running off with the cash. It's very expensive to try to pin this on any of the directors, which is what they'll rely on.

[Fred Bloggs]

Registrant:
iain nicholson

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
52 Mount Road
Canterbury
Kent
CT1 1YF
United Kingdom

Oops, he's registered it as a personal website to his home address, not a business. Naughty Iain.

But the address on the website is the same as:
NPS (Head Office)
National Payment Solutions Ltd
17 North Lane, Canterbury, CT2 7PG
Company Registration Number:
123456789

Seriously? Nope, dummy company number, not a Ltd.
Maybe they mean NPS Accountancy Ltd:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10087805

Which is maybe related to: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10005252

And one name keeps cropping up:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/o...0/appointments

Although it could just be that she is being brought in to wind the businesses up, looking at the number of companies where she has just been made a director.

My word, all this going to end very, very badly for some people one day, I feel. Though, maybe not so badly for Mr Nicholson, perhaps?

[northernladyuk]

Perhaps they mean 90% for psychocandy. Perfectly achievable.

[WTFH]

www dot income-management dot co dot uk

Registrant:
iain nicholson

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
52 Mount Road
Canterbury
Kent
CT1 1YF
United Kingdom

Oops, he's registered it as a personal website to his home address, not a business. Naughty Iain.

But the address on the website is the same as:
NPS (Head Office)
National Payment Solutions Ltd
17 North Lane, Canterbury, CT2 7PG
Company Registration Number:
123456789

Seriously? Nope, dummy company number, not a Ltd.
Maybe they mean NPS Accountancy Ltd:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10087805

Which is maybe related to: https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10005252

And one name keeps cropping up:
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/o...0/appointments

Although it could just be that she is being brought in to wind the businesses up, looking at the number of companies where she has just been made a director.

[Fred Bloggs]

Roll on GDPR...

It isn't going to make any difference though is it? The spam will just be administrated off shore? And I suppose the side benefit is that I am made aware of the state of the art amongst these scams.

[TonyF]

Despite me complaining several times, a very high profile recruitment website insists on spamming me with pay schemes aimed squarely at contractors.

Roll on GDPR...

[Fred Bloggs]

If they say there are compliant they must be who would lie about such things!

Somewhat interestingly, when you search on these guys address at companies house it says there are -

54,727 matches found

But it seems none with the name that appears on the website, albeit they do not yuse the words limited company on their website. No doubt this is a serviced business address fronting for yet another off shore entity?

[Skye2011]

Despite me complaining several times, a very high profile recruitment website insists on spamming me with pay schemes aimed squarely at contractors. This is the latest one received a few minutes ago. They promise 90% take home in the spam email, I continue to be amazed that these people are still in business and that folks must still be signing up. What can possibly go wrong? Caveat emptor.

• HMRC administration included
• Latest opinion from leading Tax Counsel
• IR35 compliant
• All necessary insurances provided
• Fully compliant with current UK tax law

www dot income-management dot co dot uk

If they say there are compliant they must be who would lie about such things!

[Fred Bloggs]

Despite me complaining several times, a very high profile recruitment website insists on spamming me with pay schemes aimed squarely at contractors. This is the latest one received a few minutes ago. They promise 90% take home in the spam email, I continue to be amazed that these people are still in business and that folks must still be signing up. What can possibly go wrong? Caveat emptor.

• HMRC administration included
• Latest opinion from leading Tax Counsel
• IR35 compliant
• All necessary insurances provided
• Fully compliant with current UK tax law

www dot income-management dot co dot uk