Reply to: Claiming mileage without a car

[John8589]

- Coat for cold weather
- High vis jacket
- Shoes wear off quickly
- new gloves
- Extra food needed including stopover at Costa

I need extra beer when clients ask me questions like this. Do you think HMRC will let me deduct the expense for tax purposes?

[Eirikur]

By walking, what expense do you think you're incurring?

I would have given you a more detailed answer if you hadn't come across as such a prat.

- Coat for cold weather
- High vis jacket
- Shoes wear off quickly
- new gloves
- Extra food needed including stopover at Costa

[John8589]

Hi,

The best and easiest thing to do if you do not own the car or are not responsible for it is to make a payment to the driver for the lift and ask for a receipt. You can then legitimately claim the business trip as a business expense.

Abbas Shah
Hallam Jones Accountancy

Considering your awful website that is riddled with spelling mistakes and typos, this answer does not surprise me.

Your website also mentions that dividends are available on profits before tax. Excuse me??

Stop giving bad advice to your current client base and to users of this forum.

[PerfectStorm]

And violate the driver's insurance since they are charging you for the journey.

So in that case if there's no cost to the employee, there is no benefit to pay!

[John8589]

How much can you claim per mile (tax free) for walking?
- No I didn't ask my accountant
- No I didn't do a search
- No I didn't check any of the links provided in this thread

By walking, what expense do you think you're incurring?

I would have given you a more detailed answer if you hadn't come across as such a prat.

[Magpie252]

Hi,

The best and easiest thing to do if you do not own the car or are not responsible for it is to make a payment to the driver for the lift and ask for a receipt. You can then legitimately claim the business trip as a business expense.

Abbas Shah
Hallam Jones Accountancy

The OP might get better advice from MRS Shahs Food Company Ltd that operates from the same address

Or, excuse my ignorance, is Abbas a male or female name? are you in fact Mrs Shah?

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

How much can you claim per mile (tax free) for walking?
- No I didn't ask my accountant
- No I didn't do a search
- No I didn't check any of the links provided in this thread

Eat more food for lunch to make up for the extra calories burned and claim for that.

[GlenW]

Hi,

The best and easiest thing to do if you do not own the car or are not responsible for it is to make a payment to the driver for the lift and ask for a receipt. You can then legitimately claim the business trip as a business expense.

Abbas Shah
Hallam Jones Accountancy

I know your name is more like an Indian but you sound like a cowboy.

[Pondlife]

Hi,

The best and easiest thing to do if you do not own the car or are not responsible for it is to make a payment to the driver for the lift and ask for a receipt. You can then legitimately claim the business trip as a business expense.

Abbas Shah
Hallam Jones Accountancy

And violate the driver's insurance since they are charging you for the journey.

[Hallam Jones Accounting]

Hi,

The best and easiest thing to do if you do not own the car or are not responsible for it is to make a payment to the driver for the lift and ask for a receipt. You can then legitimately claim the business trip as a business expense.

Abbas Shah
Hallam Jones Accountancy

[Eirikur]

How much can you claim per mile (tax free) for walking?
- No I didn't ask my accountant
- No I didn't do a search
- No I didn't check any of the links provided in this thread

[John8589]

Sorry, I should have elaborated (my badly written posts have probably caused some confusion!). Cycling Programmers first paragraph on the post at 19:33 is therefore correct.

However, whilst legal ownership is not necessary, you must bear the costs of the vehicle you are claiming the mileage for.

BIM47701 Applies
Ownership - It is not necessary for a person who claims mileage rate basis to be the legal owner of the vehicle. All that is necessary is that the taxpayer claiming the expense is paying the costs of running and maintaining the vehicle.

[TheCyclingProgrammer]

It's worth noting that if these payments do fall under the passenger payment exemption, then it only applies if the driver is also an employee making a business journey and is paid mileage for the trip.

In other words it's an addition, not standalone. And it's payable to the driver.

EIM31400 - Employees using own cars or vans for work: outline and definition of passenger payments

I stand by what I said about mileage being allowed on any car, other than company cars, regardless of ownership but it does seem be the case that you need to have been driving (paragraph 4 of the above legislation backs this up).

[David P]

I base my answer on legislation. It can be found in the Income Tax (Earnings and Pensions) Act 2003, Section 229, Paragraphs 1 & 4 being relevant.

Basing decisions on HMRC and .Gov guidance is risky business!

Many thanks.

[John8589]

I base my answer on legislation. It can be found in the Income Tax (Earnings and Pensions) Act 2003, Section 229, Paragraphs 1 & 4 being relevant.

Basing decisions on HMRC and .Gov guidance is risky business!