test please delete

[TheBigYinJames]

Clearly some incompetent has been told to replace the page with a 404, and thinks that just sticking up a page saying 404 is adequate, not realising that you have to send the actual HTTP response code.

It does seem a bit odd to make a page which is pretending to be a 404. Either they should serve a pretty "no longer here" page or just delete the folder and they'll get a proper server 404 for free

[NickFitz]

It does seem a bit odd to make a page which is pretending to be a 404. Either they should serve a pretty "no longer here" page or just delete the folder and they'll get a proper server 404 for free

Even if they serve a pretty "no longer here" page they ought to serve it with response code 410, or 404 at a pinch, otherwise it will continue to be indexed by search engines and such. Once they see the 410 (or 404) it will be removed from indexes, whereas as long as it's served with 200 OK it will be assumed to be the actual resource located at that URL and will be indexed.

On the same topic, why don't browsers automatically update bookmarks when they get a 301 Moved Permanently?

[BrilloPad]

I'm familiar with the technique you describe, but that doesn't make any sense in this context - the page is for their 2005 conference, and is therefore obsolete, so the intention is clearly to actually serve a response saying that the page is no longer available.

Clearly some incompetent has been told to replace the page with a 404, and thinks that just sticking up a page saying 404 is adequate, not realising that you have to send the actual HTTP response code.

And anyway, it should be 410 Gone

more nerdy stuff!

[BrilloPad]

Just a cup of tea and a snog then....

What do I get for £50?

[BrilloPad]

I am "so" bored......

There must be more to life than this.... If I was younger I'd sell my bod instead

Anything to break the monotony....

How old are you?

[NickFitz]

On the same topic, why don't browsers automatically update bookmarks when they get a 301 Moved Permanently?

Just tested on Opera 9.22, Firefox 2 and Safari 3 (can't be bothered to dig out the build numbers)... none of them update the URL of a bookmark on receiving a 301 Moved Permanently response, despite the fact that they've just been told that the resource has, um, moved permanently - and they know where to, because they follow the redirect.

Surely the whole point is to update the bookmark so that when you use it again, you get to the actual resource you were trying to get to, rather than having to be redirected a second time?

[BrilloPad]

BrilloPad 12,840
zeitghost 11,849
DS23 10,000

hmmm - I am not drivelling enough!

[NickFitz]

Surely the whole point is to update the bookmark so that when you use it again, you get to the actual resource you were trying to get to, rather than having to be redirected a second time?

Hmm... apparently one of the problems with automatically updating bookmarks is that certain incompetent closed wifi access point administrators use a 301 Moved Permanently redirect to send one to their login page... they should of course use 302 Found (or preferably either 303 See Other or 307 Temporary Redirect)

And where does one find these incompetent buffoons?

Hotel wifi providers, of course

[zeitghost]

Gosh. Things do move on.

That all sounds too hard now.

Quite.

There was a time when I could have designed a PC AT it was just a bog standard micro with ttl glue logic & Intel support chips... these days there's no chance

[zeitghost]

Bye. Thank you for the lecture.

Wavey wave.

Is hokay

Hope it was mildly informative...