Is it fair for contractors to pay Employer’s NI from his day rate?

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Something, somewhere is wrong or misrepresented...that’s all the petition is saying. My fight is not against the employer, it is just the way the rates are presented by agencies and the way this ir35 is implemented. But thanks for you time to read and comment.

But the petition isn't saying that - it is saying

"The Government should change the IR35 rules to ensure that the employer’s National Insurance (NI) is paid by the client/employer and not by the contractor or the umbrella company."

And it shows that whoever wrote the petition (I assume it was you) doesn't understand the finer details. Which is a shame as a more nuanced petition which highlighted the cause of the issue would have been very useful at the moment.

Sadly unless you bin this one, one with better phrasing would be removed as a duplicate.

[lucyclarityumbrella]

Something, somewhere is wrong or misrepresented...that’s all the petition is saying. My fight is not against the employer, it is just the way the rates are presented by agencies and the way this ir35 is implemented. But thanks for you time to read and comment.

It all comes back to the regulation in the industry - the government needs to step up and make sure that every umbrella company explains things properly so the contractor can then make the decision as to whether the rate is right for them.

[IR35equalshateoflittleguy]

Umbrella companies deduct employer NI and employee NI from a contractor’s day rate agreed with the hiring manager. Is this fair? Is the umbrella companies just a facade for double NI collection from a contractor’s day rate? Most hiring managers are not even aware that employer’s NI is being paid by contractor’s day rate. I thought I’d raise this as a petition for government to consider if this is fair. Please support by signing this petition if you can.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/582935

Fair to who? To HMRC their greedy little fingers it is very very fair. For you it is not fair and it is a big joke for HMRC.

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To HMRC the end client is trying to avoid paying employer NI by pretending that these people are not employees.

that is the reason behind this change and the consequences are going to take a while to complete.

and if you think IT has problems you should see other labour markets (oh boy there is fun there).