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    #31
    Originally posted by simes View Post
    If still considered stupid, keep reading as I am sure I can surpass even That.
    I want to be perfectly clear. What I said was that your statement was stupid, not that you personally are.

    If you consider that I was to narrow, I'm glad to rectify the deficiency and apply it beyond your statement.

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      #32
      Fight has only just started.

      a few hundred thousand contractors
      I think it will affect more people than they realise.

      Contracting is only part of the problem.

      Issue is HMRC and how big it has become.

      Winners will be outsource companies like errr whats the name ... Oh yeah Infosys.

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        #33
        Originally posted by WordIsBond View Post
        I want to be perfectly clear. What I said was that your statement was stupid, not that you personally are.

        If you consider that I was toO narrow, I'm glad to rectify the deficiency and apply it beyond your statement.
        Rest assured, I never considered the statement to apply to me. And even if it did, I firmly believe in the right to free speech.

        But to ignore the (attempt at) humour for now, in my case, every single one of my clients, past and present, have now refused to use PSCs.

        If I wanted to continue what I am doing, I would be PAYE and Inside. Since that is the case, and if I were to continue with same and similar clients, I would never have to consult the CEST oracle. True or False? If True, then for me it IS redundant.

        Happy to be corrected.

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          #34
          Originally posted by WordIsBond View Post
          I want to be perfectly clear. What I said was that your statement was stupid, not that you personally are.
          But if looks like a duck and quacks like a duck.....
          'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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            #35
            Originally posted by mallisarealperson View Post
            I think it will affect more people than they realise.
            Contracting is only part of the problem.
            Agreed. It's the fact that this legislation now permits duality of consideration ("employment for tax purposes, freelance for engagement purposes") that this now pushes the balance too far in the other direction, and now encourages all companies of any size to cease hiring permanent employees, and to switch to a long-term freelance model.

            No Rights Employee

            (I know this website was meant to be satire, not an advertisement, but as the saying goes, be careful what you say in jest...!)

            Advertisements asking for this model are starting to pop up now all over Jobserve, only a trickle now, which I think will become a tsunami once IR35 is ratified on the 11th of March.

            So, in effect, the HMRC long-standing fear of the "disguised employees" will, ironically, come true.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Disguised Contractor View Post
              So, in effect, the HMRC long-standing fear of the "disguised employees" will, ironically, come true.
              It wasn't a fear, it was their aspiration - everybody under PAYE - nice and easy for them to collect the tax, even if it knackers up the economy
              Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

              I preferred version 1!

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                #37
                Originally posted by BoredBloke View Post
                It wasn't a fear, it was their aspiration - everybody under PAYE - nice and easy for them to collect the tax, even if it knackers up the economy
                ...everyone on a nice steady income so they can feel OK about spending more on credit, and so they can be made to feel they have something to lose. I will stop there...

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SouWester View Post
                  ...everyone on a nice steady income so they can feel OK about spending more on credit, and so they can be made to feel they have something to lose. I will stop there...
                  Um no - I'm happy to spend on credit when I know I have a lot of money about to appear round the corner - far less willing to do so when I'm working to a budget..

                  Bin contracting and I would be watching every penny and definitely not borrowing any.
                  merely at clientco for the entertainment

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by eek View Post
                    Bin contracting and I would be watching every penny and definitely not borrowing any.
                    Not disagreeing as you know your own mind, but many would take the opposite approach.

                    Maybe it's just on my mind as I am likely going permie, and am feeling uneasy about it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by SouWester View Post
                      Not disagreeing as you know your own mind, but many would take the opposite approach.

                      Maybe it's just on my mind as I am likely going permie, and am feeling uneasy about it.
                      Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen [pounds] nineteen [shillings] and six [pence], result happiness.
                      Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery.

                      If my income is dropping (and going permie might knock it by 40% or more) I wouldn't be borrowing money - I would be cutting expenditure to meet my the lifestyle my new income would afford me (and it wouldn't be a week in Barbados and a week in New York as last year featured).
                      Last edited by eek; 28 February 2020, 13:13.
                      merely at clientco for the entertainment

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