HMRC fail again...

[ChimpMaster]

At the end of my IR35 case (four years, five contracts, all found outside) all I wanted to do was walk away. I was angry but no longer had the stomach for a fight. It can change you and not necessarily in a good way. You have to think of your health, that of your family and to know when to stop.

I'm at this point now.

I've had enough of being vilified, picked on, marginalised and made to feel guilty because I don't fit HMRC's narrative of a good "customer". I work my balls off and pay more taxes than any permie in the same level as I might considered at. It's never enough for HMRC.

[TwoWolves]

I'm at this point now.

I've had enough of being vilified, picked on, marginalised and made to feel guilty because I don't fit HMRC's narrative of a good "customer". I work my balls off and pay more taxes than any permie in the same level as I might considered at. It's never enough for HMRC.

They aren't interested in the money, this is an ideological battle. The free-market economy was cancelled in 2008, they are just stamping out the last embers.

[Lockhouse]

...taking HMRC officers to court for lying...

And they do lie. Make no mistake. They lied in my case and I had them bang to rights. To say I despise them doesn't do it justice. Mostly though I try to let it go as it just eats you up.

[BrilloPad]

And they do lie. Make no mistake. They lied in my case and I had them bang to rights. To say I despise them doesn't do it justice. Mostly though I try to let it go as it just eats you up.

I am partially involved in LCJ. Donations can be made HOME | Loancharge .

[FIERCE TANK BATTLE]

So, is it possible to FOI HMRC's legal bill?

[BoredBloke]

So, is it possible to FOI HMRC's legal bill?

HMRC routinely fail to answer FOI requests. You can submit one but they will worm out of giving an answer

[NeedTheSunshine]

I am partially involved in LCJ. Donations can be made HOME | Loancharge .

I have contributed to this and am also a member of LCAG. The April 2020 IR35 private sector rollout is simply targeting the next low hanging fruit victims of HMRC. Easy money for them, and really nothing to lose. Was inevitable after the public sector rollout. Just a matter of time. Of course if you are running a genuine business to business company as so many claim that they are on here, you will be just fine and dandy.....

[WordIsBond]

So, is it possible to FOI HMRC's legal bill?

This might actually be one way to fight back. Different people doing that for all of these cases that they've lost. Shine the light on how much money they've spent pursuing people who've done nothing wrong.

I think if you limit it to the legal bill of a single case they'd have a hard time coming up with a reason not to provide it.

[webberg]

Experience tells me that an FOI on HMRC to find legal costs in any case or in any set of cases, will be refused.

The reasons we have been given vary but are all about "to tell you that would compromise our ability to operate the tax system and to bring litigation where appropriate".

More privately we are told that HMRC has concerns that they can be out muscled in terms of legal costs by groups or rich individuals.

Both of the above is nonsense.

[JohntheBike]

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