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Poll: PSC contractors - Has your contract been deemed inside or outside Ir35?

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    #21
    FOI probably applies though.

    A birdy told me today saw 75% fewer contractors in one govt area turned up today compared with Friday.
    5% of the human resource.
    Last edited by Guesstimator; 3 April 2017, 11:44. Reason: Wasn't a government "dept" but a division...not a clue what the difference is

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      #22
      Originally posted by Guesstimator View Post
      FOI probably applies though.

      A birdy told me today saw 75% fewer contractors in one govt area turned up today compared with Friday.
      5% of the human resource.
      Ah, possibly correct if he's contracting to Post Office LTD.
      The Chunt of Chunts.

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        #23
        Outside.

        The PSC took the sensible view that as all contractors had a right of substitution, that in practice they would be very likely to accept a recommended substitute - it would save them the trouble of recruiting afresh.

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          #24
          Outside

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            #25
            Originally posted by willendure View Post
            Outside.

            The PSC took the sensible view that as all contractors had a right of substitution, that in practice they would be very likely to accept a recommended substitute - it would save them the trouble of recruiting afresh.
            Interesting. Sounds like they aren't using the ESS though (or may be ignoring the guidance therein).

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              #26
              Originally posted by willendure View Post
              Outside.

              The PSC took the sensible view that as all contractors had a right of substitution, that in practice they would be very likely to accept a recommended substitute - it would save them the trouble of recruiting afresh.
              I'd don't think I'd be very happy with that reasoning if it ever got investigated. RoS is there to prove we are a business in our own rights. Not to save them trouble recruiting the next inside person.

              Many contractors don't understand substituting isn't just sending a new guy in the Monday after you've left and I strongly suspect reading that the client doesn't either. Only takes one complex situation that is more trouble than them getting a new bod and there is a good chance they'll be changing their stance of substitution.

              Right answer, wrong reasons.
              'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!

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                #27
                Outside, London University

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                  #28
                  Outside. Central Government department.
                  Cats are evil.

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                    #29
                    So here is an interesting development.

                    My clientco is NHS Org. As said in previous post, originally outside a month ago when arranging renewal but told last week inside with no justification or explanation. Challenged it and now been sent an ESA form from clientco created by brookson legal services.

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                      #30
                      Originally deemed outside, however theyall contractors 24th March with a view to re-issuing formal outside of IR35 contracts from the 6th April. Unnecessary.

                      Yesterday they've decided everyone is IN and they've issued the roles to the agencies to recruit people...

                      Totally banal.

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