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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostYeah but isn't he in no mans land surely. Fixed number of days for a fixed deliverable? It's one or the other hasn't it. Is it fixed price, or is it paid on delivery? It just doesn't sound different enough to be anything more than he's got now.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYep, fixed price is the silver bullet, not fixed number of days. I'm not even sure that the OP suggested a fixed deliverable, rather a service package if you will.
Same role, different "agreement" and a different contract = No silver bullet. Sorry.Public Service Posting by the BBC - Bloggs Bulls**t Corp.
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostYep, fixed price is the silver bullet, not fixed number of days. I'm not even sure that the OP suggested a fixed deliverable, rather a service package if you will.
He says
but the role and tasks remain unchanged.
Same role, different "agreement" and a different contract = No silver bullet. Sorry.
The only get out here is the OP does say is
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostHmm Yeah. I'd assumed fixed deliverable as that is what he's already doing and expected to do. You can call it a service package but if he's admitted it's the same role then I don't think he can polish it up.
He says
and think that this covers it...
Whether HMRC can have the wool pulled over their eyes is a different question but it appears to me it will just fall apart under the slightest of scrutiny.
The only get out here is the OP does say is
So it could actually be that the new format more suits his delivery better than the old bum on seat one so could work. Devil will be in the details.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by aikidoka View PostHi all, thanks for the responses.
It would be Outside and potentially they would be invoicing my company directly rather than through the agency.
They are paying me for a set number of consultancy days to deliver 2 projects that I have already provided estimates for. So, yes... in this case there is a fixed deliverable.
It just feels a little like one of the reasons IR35 came into being where people were leaving an organisation on the Friday, only to come back on the Monday as a "consultant" in the same job.
If you've got a new contract, even better. If you've got a direct contract not through the agency, better still. If you've got a direct contract not through the agency, and you are getting paid part of the cut the agency was taking, best of all.
If the client isn't the one saying it would be outside, if that's just your assessment, forget it.Comment
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