Results of the public sector consultation is up

[m0n1k3r]

I don't understand. They are still humans sat at a desk doing work a civil servant could and should be doing .

You would typically not see the MD of KMPG doing client work, and even if they do, it would (a) typically not be full-time, and (b) be performed with autonomy (interim executives are hired because they contribute unique and valuable knowledge that the organisation doesn't possess, and therefore don't have an ability to impose control over).

[b r]

The ability for us to call home our base is unique to consultancies (and even then not always) and contractors.

Disagree.

I have a friend who works for <insert Indian consultancy>, he's based out of home - and has been working on the same customer site for the best part of 5 years, all travel is fully expensed.

[LondonManc]

Lets not go there again. VAT is neutral in HMRC's eyes and really just a minor admin task (yep I know its work) for companies whose income is above x...

If your company has an income before tax of £83k VAT is required, earn below £83k with only a public sector client and you could deregister....

VAT is now neutral given that they've upped it from 14.5% to 16.5%

I'd be impressed if you could earn more than 83k with only a public sector client up north

How do you know beforehand that you'll have an income of £83k? Do you base it on previous years? I'd earn that down south but potentially not up north, given then disparity in rates.

[eek]

The ability for us to call home our base is unique to consultancies (and even then not always) and contractors.

Disagree.

I have a friend who works for <insert Indian consultancy>, he's based out of home - and has been working on the same customer site for the best part of 5 years, all travel is fully expensed.

Just because a company is abusing the rules doesn't justify others doing it.

[eek]

VAT is now neutral given that they've upped it from 14.5% to 16.5%

I'd be impressed if you could earn more than 83k with only a public sector client up north

How do you know beforehand that you'll have an income of £83k? Do you base it on previous years? I'd earn that down south but potentially not up north, given then disparity in rates.

I turned down £700 a day for 21 months keeping a system going...

DWP and HMRC rates up north are the same as London and often towards (or even above) the top of the market....

[LondonManc]

Just because a company is abusing the rules doesn't justify others doing it.

It depends if those expenses are in his contract or not - if they are, then there's no abuse.

[chopper]

So how will pension contributions work? Will PS contractors have to make pension contributions on the money received after NICs deducted (obviously, Income tax relief exists)?

[MrMarkyMark]

The ability for us to call home our base is unique to consultancies (and even then not always) and contractors.

Disagree.

I have a friend who works for <insert Indian consultancy>, he's based out of home - and has been working on the same customer site for the best part of 5 years, all travel is fully expensed.

Oh.............you seem to be surprised they are breaking the rules, then

There is a reason others operate differently you know

[eek]

So how will pension contributions work? Will PS contractors have to make pension contributions on the money received after NICs deducted (obviously, Income tax relief exists)?

Yep - it would be one of the reasons why (were I to end up in a Public sector contract inside these rules) I would be seeking employment rights so that my pension could be paid gross....

Granted you could solve the same problem using an umbrella but then you would have to trust the umbrella to do things honestly and swallow the umbrella's charges....

[DotasScandal]

Nice choices summary.

Missing

6. Move off this godforsaken island and offer your services elsewhere.

Life is short.