Staying in the same public sector contract after April 2017

[eek]

It's hardly news, it's been the case from day 1. Which you, as a fully engaged member, surely knew already.

But if it makes you happy, let's tell everyone who hasn't got PEI protection that they shouldn't bother. Would that help?

Think about what I expect will be sent out later this year and read your previous posts today again especially the one regarding indefensible cases not being supported...

[RonBW]

IPSE as an idea is dead its business model destroyed by a structural market change.

Assuming that is true

1) When do you think IPSE will shut their doors?

2) Is there anything that you think IPSE could do or should they just close?

[eek]

Assuming that is true

1) When do you think IPSE will shut their doors?

2) Is there anything that you think IPSE could do or should they just close?

That depends on how quickly the market changes in the private sector.

And I suspect that will be in April 2019....

[Andy Hallett]

The rumour from two weeks' ago was unfounded?

I guess as an agency if you are reasonably confident in an "outside" status, and can convince the client that it is in everybody's interest to make that call, you're in a great position to win the business, as long as you are 'happy' to take the risk.

There has been a 'duty of care' provision inserted. So although we had hoped for the liability to hit the hirer (it's only fair that the decision maker has the liability for the decision), it looks like we'll have some more protections.

[Andy Hallett]

This isn't a discussion about rights and wrongs of IPSE.

[Semtex]

eek your knowledge on this area is assisting us all and for this I am very grateful. But your posts are now bordering on a combination of aggressive and pompous. Please can we have a little humanity back on these threads?

[eek]

There has been a 'duty of care' provision inserted. So although we had hoped for the liability to hit the hirer (it's only fair that the decision maker has the liability for the decision), it looks like we'll have some more protections.

True but I would argue that the person best able to make an accurate decision based on the facts is the agent....

[eek]

eek your knowledge on this area is assisting us all and for this I am very grateful. But your posts are now bordering on a combination of aggressive and pompous. Please can we have a little humanity back on these threads?

Sadly the stupidity of certain IPSE members and directors does that to me - some have been caught attacking me via sockie accounts (their Vice Chairman is a prime example).

Don't worry I'm doing actual work for the rest of the week so I won't be here.

I may or may return afterwards..

Remember this doesn't directly concern me I'm only posting here because no one else was doing it and thought someone better had - the people who should be doing so definitely aren't...

[teapot418]

I may or may not return - I may equally well just delete the FAQ....

Helpful.

[eek]

Helpful.

That isn't what my post says - I would correct that before I actually go and do it.

But I'd be quick I'm in a absolutely foul mood at the moment and I am seriously tempted to delete the lot.....