Sunday Solutions Anyone Else Having A Problem

[bobster]

Police Involvement

I've just spoken to Avon & Somerset Police to try and contact DC Quinn and was told that he was busy and that the case is closed as no crime has been committed. Has anyone made any progress through their local CID?

[icekoolms]

Partnership now complete.
I have now received my monies and detailed letter regarding what I need to do next, from the Partnership, ........ The other contractors that I am in contact with have all had either Partnership accounts or some form of abbreviated accounts in the last two weeks with two now being paid up?

Waht instructions have you been given and have you been given your partnership profits form to complete your SATR?

I understand one has received a reduced figure whilst waiting for one of the Partners to repay monies owed to the Partnership.

Can we deduce from this that that the problem is with our own Partners and not with Bradbury? Why would Partners owe the Partnership, as monies would have been deducted by Bradbury before paying the net figures each month?

I wish all the people on this forum well with resolving accounting issue with Bradbury, and would comment that some people who clearly want to make a “storm in a tea-cup!” seem to be fuelling this forum making acquisitions

......( I think you mean accusations not acquisitions!) .....

Whilst you may believe this to be a storm in a tea cup, I believe that if Bradbury were organised, they would have been a lot more up front and communicative both in the past and now.

and proposing all sorts of fraud, based on little if no facts. Given the names and Companies mentioned in this forum if as I now know, given my own circumstances, this entire posting is simply down to bad communication by Bradbury I can only assume many people reputation and business have been damaged and as the forum allows an anonymous status, then unlike even the gutter press, these people are not accountable for any statements. I would advise a little more responsibility from those that post and this website, it seems to be getting out of hand in my opinion.

FYI my statement of accounts from Bradbury quote my Undistributed Partnership Funds as in the region of £2000. The cost of administering the Partnership as nearly £7K GBP! Thats 10 times the original forecast of £700GBP. That is one very large misunderstanding dont you think?

I look forward to others comments with interest.

[Ladyboy]

[QUOTE=icekoolms;1014771]Waht instructions have you been given and have you been given your partnership profits form to complete your SATR?

A letter addressed to my accountant with Instructions on what is included in the Partnership accounts, my expenses and what he needs to include on the 08/09 SATR


Can we deduce from this that that the problem is with our own Partners and not with Bradbury? Why would Partners owe the Partnership, as monies would have been deducted by Bradbury before paying the net figures each month?

It didn’t happen on my Partnership, but a contractor I introduced to the Partnership solution via Sunday, I’m not sure of the details but I assume he was paid as the rest of us via a profits forecasts calculated when he started, obviously his profits (partnership)were not as high as first thought.



Whilst you may believe this to be a storm in a tea cup, I believe that if Bradbury were organised, they would have been a lot more up front and communicative both in the past and now.

Agreed, communication has from what is on this forum, been ridiculous and badly managed at best, but I’m not sure bad communication should be the catalyst for a "tar and feather!" rampage that seems to include innocent parties and companies.



FYI my statement of accounts from Bradbury quote my Undistributed Partnership Funds as in the region of £2000. The cost of administering the Partnership as nearly £7K GBP! Thats 10 times the original forecast of £700GBP. That is one very large misunderstanding dont you think?


My accounts give a full breakdown of costs in a similar structure to that of the original forecast, the costs are different but it does explain in the letter that the accounts are for the full trading period of the Partnership and as the forecast is for a twelve month period, it’s not immediately obvious but as I was in my partnership (2nd Partnership) less than a year, clearly the Partnership accounts will be different. In the letter it also explains "annualised costs" charged on joining, (I’m don’t recall having this explained to me!) and how the costs by each supplier were calculated. Am i happy? Yes! as it now all sorted, No! Because I think this forum gained attention to me and my Partnership, and i have concerns about HMRC using this info to challenge my Partnership status and Tax.

I hope you get the monies from the Partnership as I did.

[Microtots'r'us]

Fancy that !!!!

Just as an aside, chatting with one of my acquaintences down the local the other night and it turns out he is a policeman working on the whole Sunday Solutions case (and more than a little surprised I knew about it!). So it's not been parked. It is, however, damned complex so don't confuse motion with progress.

Thank you MALVOLIO because according to what I have been told the DC A Quinn at Avon And Somerset is telling people no crime has been committed. I have to assume he means " by Bradbury and Co limited". But if they knew something was going on at B& CO that 'others' were doing did B & CO Limited not have a duty to report it to Trading Standards FSA, HMRC etc.

[Microtots'r'us]

Hopeful signs ??

DIRTY BITCH ( who is probaly a sweet lady or is that big guy who does vb programming ) wrote above However on a more posotive n'ote I have recieved my accounts now, and am being asked to approve them using an online system. i understand that once they are approved Bradbury and Co can then get the Partnership accounts together and distribute my "Profits".

Comment:Just read the full print of the unsigned letter and ask a lawyer if approving the accounts for the purposes of getting a figure to go to prepare a tax return will stop you making a future claim against the accountants and others who 'administered'( if that is the right word) the partnership?

This all sounds very promising and I am told in an email that this should all be resolved by week commencing 14th Dec.
Comment :Nope -what Bradbury say is they will or say they will send people another series of messages "in the week commencing 14th Dec". For all we know it could be a case of sorry or the money's not there.

I know I sound cynical but one of my friend's is still waiting for all of her tax for 2007-08 to be paid by these people. Credibility Zero.
And Willow Meade are touting an Umbrella company scheme. Please if you value your sanity stay out of these schemes.

if you go contracting look at using your own company and find a snsible accountant to keep you on the right track. These one stop one size fits all deals from various companies do not suit the sophisticated people who do things like my speciality - clearing up other contractors messes.

[FeedtheKids]

The cost of administering the Partnership as nearly £7K GBP! Thats 10 times the original forecast of £700GBP. That is one very large misunderstanding dont you think?

Probably the sting. Say they had 500 partners each overcharged by a similar amount then we are talking a figure worth getting out of bed for. Consider the risk - who realistically thinks that they'll be able to successfully dispute the charges, get them reduced and get their money out? If you are like me you are probably trying to get what you can to pay as much of your tax bill as you can in January and treating the Sunday charges as collateral damage for being so stupid. This is not fair at all but the game has probably been played out and won while we were all busy working.

Like many here I have been trying to unravel the staggeringly complex network of companies, addresses and people involved and am probably more confused now than when I started. I was sceptical of Davehh when I first read his posts but he is probably right. However, by seeing this as an opportunity to make money he has dunked himself firmly in the shallow end of the gene pool IMHO. Why can't you just help your fellow man Dave? You had me searching for a "Brian" for hours at the weekend because I thought it might be a cryptic clue!

[Microtots'r'us]

HMRC and Bradbury

Hi all,
In response to a previous thread which I may not have in the right place, I have found out some info on IR35 that was talked about previously
The Intermediaries legislation was introduced on 6th April 2000. It was first proposed by the Chancellor in the 1999 Budget and details were given in the Budget press release numbered IR35. Following extensive consultation, revised proposals were announced in a new press release dated 23 September 1999. However, the legislation is now commonly referred to as ‘IR35’.

The aim of the legislation is to eliminate the avoidance of tax and National Insurance Contributions (NICs) through the use of intermediaries, such as Personal Service Companies or partnerships, in circumstances where an individual worker would otherwise -

For tax purposes, be regarded as an employee of the client; and
For NICs purposes, be regarded as employed in employed earner’s employment by the client.
Prior to the introduction of the legislation, an individual could avoid being taxed as an employee on payments for services and paying Class 1 NIC by providing those services through an intermediary. The worker could take the money out of the intermediary, normally a Personal Service Company, in the form of dividends instead of salary. As dividends are not liable to NICs, the use of a dividend remuneration strategy results in the worker paying less in NICs than either a conventional employee or a self-employed person. And PAYE would not apply to the dividends.

The legislation ensures that, if the relationship between the worker and the client would have been one of employment had it not been for an intermediary the worker pays broadly tax and NICs on a basis which is fair in relation to what an employee of the client would pay.

On 6 April 2007 Chapter 9 ITEPA 2003, more commonly known as the Managed Service Company (“MSC”) Legislation, was introduced. The MSC Legislation applies to individuals providing their services through intermediaries which meet the definition of a Managed Service Company.

An intermediary must consider whether the MSC Legislation applies before considering IR35. Intermediaries that do not meet the definition of an MSC must continue to consider IR35.

Additional information about the MSC Legislation


The circumstances in which the IR35 legislation applies
Occupations affected by the IR35 legislation
Consequences/responsibilities for: Worker(s), Intermediary, Client, Composite Companies, Agencies and Scheme promoters
Consequences of ignoring the IR 35 legislation
What can I do if I disagree with HMRC's decision?
Supplying Services through a limited company or partnership – A general guide to IR35
Supplying Services – How to calculate the IR 35 deemed payment – A general guide
IR 35 Deemed Payment Calculator
Where can I find out how to make the IR 35 deemed payment calculation
Link to general guide on employed or self-employed

O K lets be honest- most people involvd with the Subday Solutions gigs knew not what a partnership is . They know not what the difference between Self employment and employment is. To be biblical , they knew not what they did!

Sunday solutions is a hollowed out case. Bradbury is going into legacy mode
and who is going to deal with the enquiry cases. My accountant tells me that if a partnership has an enquiry that usually means every partner gets looked at too.

What if the real threat is that HMRC are going to challenge the whole of Sunday Solutions schemes. You think you see light at the end of the tunnel and it is just some guy coming to dump more on you.

This just happens

[bradburyhell]

Storm in a teacup indeed...

Partnership now complete.
I have now received my monies and detailed letter regarding what I need to do next, from the Partnership, the process and service I received from Bradbury was not good but given the statement they made about reducing staff numbers, understandable. The other contractors that I am in contact with have all had either Partnership accounts or some form of abbreviated accounts in the last two weeks with two now being paid up? I understand one has received a reduced figure whilst waiting for one of the Partners to repay monies owed to the Partnership.
I wish all the people on this forum well with resolving accounting issue with Bradbury, and would comment that some people who clearly want to make a “storm in a tea-cup!” seem to be fuelling this forum making acquisitions and proposing all sorts of fraud, based on little if no facts. Given the names and Companies mentioned in this forum if as I now know, given my own circumstances, this entire posting is simply down to bad communication by Bradbury I can only assume many people reputation and business have been damaged and as the forum allows an anonymous status, then unlike even the gutter press, these people are not accountable for any statements. I would advise a little more responsibility from those that post and this website, it seems to be getting out of hand in my opinion.

I think it a little unfair to describe this affair as a storm in a teacup. It is very easy to be glib if your tax liability has been resolved to your satisfaction. Some of us are not so fortunate...I am owed at least £10k, I have received no partnership accounts and cannot conduct any communication with my supposed accountants. For many in a similar situation this isn't a storm in a teacup: it is sleepless nights and the inevitable feeling that I will soon be filling out bankrupty paperwork!

[Microtots'r'us]

Lucky lucky lucky

Partnership now complete.
I have now received my monies and detailed letter regarding what I need to do next, from the Partnership, the process and service I received from Bradbury was not good but given the statement they made about reducing staff numbers, understandable. The other contractors that I am in contact with have all had either Partnership accounts or some form of abbreviated accounts in the last two weeks with two now being paid up? I understand one has received a reduced figure whilst waiting for one of the Partners to repay monies owed to the Partnership.
I wish all the people on this forum well with resolving accounting issue with Bradbury, and would comment that some people who clearly want to make a “storm in a tea-cup!” seem to be fuelling this forum making acquisitions and proposing all sorts of fraud, based on little if no facts. Given the names and Companies mentioned in this forum if as I now know, given my own circumstances, this entire posting is simply down to bad communication by Bradbury I can only assume many people reputation and business have been damaged and as the forum allows an anonymous status, then unlike even the gutter press, these people are not accountable for any statements. I would advise a little more responsibility from those that post and this website, it seems to be getting out of hand in my opinion.

Lucky you
But its not all slander
You did not get the bailiffs round to your house for HMRC and have have Mr Nyiri give your calls the miss that he so often did......
Or have some one else call you to say they still have not had their tax paid by Bradbury last Thursday . They are considriung going bankrupt.
Breathe a sigh of relief that you were lucky

Don't criticise what you can't understand.......

And just what will you do if HMRC start an enquiry into your former partnership?

This - just happens

[Microtots'r'us]

You can get through

I think it a little unfair to describe this affair as a storm in a teacup. It is very easy to be glib if your tax liability has been resolved to your satisfaction. Some of us are not so fortunate...I am owed at least £10k, I have received no partnership accounts and cannot conduct any communication with my supposed accountants. For many in a similar situation this isn't a storm in a teacup: it is sleepless nights and the inevitable feeling that I will soon be filling out bankrupty paperwork!

I agree .
Im sorry that you are up all night worrying . It's awful.
but do not go bankrupt - if you have a house or equity take advice on extending mortgage or speak to HMRC about a payment plan first. Then sue the partnership , Bradbury and Sunday solutions for damages loss and neglect of duty. If you can stand it do it.
Also join the action group .......please.

If we could all get together to stand up for what's right
We could crush this into a tiny ball and throw it away.