Originally posted by antuk
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Churchill Knight & Boox clients being investigated as Managed Service Companies
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Originally posted by antuk View Postso its recently been brought to my attention that Boox knew they were being investigated as far back as 2018, despite not agreeing with HMRCs conclusion, should they not have taken steps to mitigate the impact and change their working practices?
For anyone who believes CK or Boox have our best interests at heart ,or are going to fund our appeals (they are not btw), they should remember your post and remember 2018 is when they could have told us. There is going to be some very bitter in-fighting soon, I suspect also now more people know the year it started, there will be an every man for himself struggle which may include whistle blowing. We'll see.
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Originally posted by antuk View Postso its recently been brought to my attention that Boox knew they were being investigated as far back as 2018, despite not agreeing with HMRCs conclusion, should they not have taken steps to mitigate the impact and change their working practices?Comment
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Originally posted by rdw1970 View Post
I was aware of the investigation since 2019. Found out myself when HMRC objected to my Ltd Co be closed down. Had to contact Boox to find out wtf was going on and their attitude was very much 'don't worry, the investigation is taking longer than we expected. Once it's complete, HMRC will be satisfied that we're not an MSCP and you're Ltd Co will be struck off - just might take some time'. When I asked for another update they actually told me the strike-offs were filtering through now so I didn't think there was anything to worry about. How wrong was I.
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Originally posted by rdw1970 View Post
I was aware of the investigation since 2019. Found out myself when HMRC objected to my Ltd Co be closed down. Had to contact Boox to find out wtf was going on and their attitude was very much 'don't worry, the investigation is taking longer than we expected. Once it's complete, HMRC will be satisfied that we're not an MSCP and you're Ltd Co will be struck off - just might take some time'. When I asked for another update they actually told me the strike-offs were filtering through now so I didn't think there was anything to worry about. How wrong was I.
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I knew of the MSC investigation back in Jan 2019 as I received a letter from HRMC which Boox forwarded to me. I had to supply data to HMRC for their investigation which included email exchanges, letters and transcribed phone conversations with Boox (I didn't even know these were kept). I uploaded these to HMRC's Dropbox and heard nothing back for more than 6 months. Then I got an email from HMRC saying that they had forgotten to download the data, the link had expired and could I upload everything again! I replied to say I would have to source all the data again and this would take some time and then heard nothing back. I then got another letter from HMRC about 2 years later from a different investigation officer saying that he had taken over the investigation and I would receive further communication. It then went quiet again until March of this year.
It seems like a complete shambles on HMRC's side. I'm not surprised Boox didn't inform all of their clients about the situation and I assume that only a small sample of their clients were targeted initially by HMRC to prepare their case.Comment
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I have drafted my appeal. Thoughts on trying to get my MP involved?
I can see from historical questions raised he would be on side.Comment
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Originally posted by nekro View PostI knew of the MSC investigation back in Jan 2019 as I received a letter from HRMC which Boox forwarded to me. I had to supply data to HMRC for their investigation which included email exchanges, letters and transcribed phone conversations with Boox (I didn't even know these were kept). I uploaded these to HMRC's Dropbox and heard nothing back for more than 6 months. Then I got an email from HMRC saying that they had forgotten to download the data, the link had expired and could I upload everything again! I replied to say I would have to source all the data again and this would take some time and then heard nothing back. I then got another letter from HMRC about 2 years later from a different investigation officer saying that he had taken over the investigation and I would receive further communication. It then went quiet again until March of this year.
It seems like a complete shambles on HMRC's side. I'm not surprised Boox didn't inform all of their clients about the situation and I assume that only a small sample of their clients were targeted initially by HMRC to prepare their case.Comment
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Originally posted by nekro View PostI knew of the MSC investigation back in Jan 2019 as I received a letter from HRMC which Boox forwarded to me. I had to supply data to HMRC for their investigation which included email exchanges, letters and transcribed phone conversations with Boox (I didn't even know these were kept). I uploaded these to HMRC's Dropbox and heard nothing back for more than 6 months. Then I got an email from HMRC saying that they had forgotten to download the data, the link had expired and could I upload everything again! I replied to say I would have to source all the data again and this would take some time and then heard nothing back. I then got another letter from HMRC about 2 years later from a different investigation officer saying that he had taken over the investigation and I would receive further communication. It then went quiet again until March of this year.
It seems like a complete shambles on HMRC's side. I'm not surprised Boox didn't inform all of their clients about the situation and I assume that only a small sample of their clients were targeted initially by HMRC to prepare their case.
Agree with the shambles part...
However the rest sounds a little bit dodgy to say the least? HMRC agreed to a Dropbox link... it's a struggle to get them to accept email correspondence?
This is one of those moment in life where someone says 'after the even' oh I could have told you that!
My hate for CK grows by the day.
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Originally posted by Guy Incognito View PostI have drafted my appeal. Thoughts on trying to get my MP involved?
I can see from historical questions raised he would be on side.
As David Kirk says getting MPs on side is a must. Also getting the accountancy bodies to react to this via parliament is a good idea.
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