Hoey - Court of Appeal legal fees

[stonehenge]

I was wondering if you knew whether Lancashire had been allowed to appeal...

No, I don't know.

[eek]

I heard that Lancashire intended to appeal to the UT.

If you are saying that they are not allowed to appeal then I was obviously misinformed.

It's on the bottom of the judgement. The reason I asked is because one of the things Saleos and co have been adamant about is that they will be allowed to appeal even though Lancashire hasn't been allowed to. I was wondering if you knew whether Lancashire had been allowed to appeal given that the judgement seems to make an appeal impossible - because you said an appeal was likely as you announced the release of the judgement.

[stonehenge]

As an aside has Lancashire been allowed to appeal as you missed out the fact that appeals were disallowed in your initial post about it where you said an appeal was likely. That's worth knowing as I expect the exact some rule (no appeal allowed) will be applied in the Hoey case.

I heard that Lancashire intended to appeal to the UT.

If you are saying that they are not allowed to appeal then I was obviously misinformed.

[eek]

I think the days (or even hours) of this forum may be numbered...

Nope - I just think people need to be 100% honest as to their motives - and if I catch people who aren't being honest it's only fair to call them out. After a week of attacking me I also thought it was only appropriate to start adopting the same approach.

I also think it's very worthwhile highlighting the fact that Saleos is a creator of these schemes while Webberg only started working in the field of contractor tax issues back in 2015 long after these schemes were created and the real profits made. It's almost like the old boys club wanted to scare newcomers out of the industry.

As an aside has Lancashire been allowed to appeal as you missed out the fact that appeals were disallowed in your initial post about it where you said an appeal was likely. That's worth knowing as I expect the exact some rule (no appeal allowed) will be applied in the Hoey case.

[stonehenge]

I think the days (or even hours) of this forum may be numbered...

[eek]

You tell yourself whatever lies you want to make yourself feel better eek. This thread is here for all to read together with your other posts. I’m more than content for people to make their own mind up about you and your motives.

I asked you a question - where on the gofundme campaign page is the statement that you made above regarding when a withdrawal will be made and if no appeal occurred the money be refunded. And the truth of the matter is that you can't - because the campaign page doesn't contain the information that you claim is within it.


Oh and I have a single motive - to ensure people don't waste they money on false promises and I believe Hoey is at the moment just another false promise and HMRC and the courts will find a way to win.

But thinking about it - I'm actually getting fed up with you attacking me while I carefully attack just the ball so let's ask you a few questions

1) How many millions did you and your cronies make from the schemes you devised and sold?
2) How many people are your responsible for the suicide of because of the 10 years plus grief and consist threat of imminent and immediate bankruptcy that your schemes resulted in given that all they wanted and what you sold them was a hassle free life without needing to worry about IR35?

I don't expect a reply as I know you won't respond but it's worth emphasising that you are not really magnanimously helping for free you are doing so both to protect your reputation and because you profited hugely from these schemes in the first place.

[luxCon]

I'm going to add this here in case people find this thread via google and don't read the other threads

Since this page was closed last week the following facts have been confirmed


2) Any donations to that campaign cannot be refunded so if you donate money to it you must accept the fact that the money might be used for other purposes.

eek & MODs, Since the statement above is clearly false and potentially liables, please consider removing altogether.

[Saleos]

So put that on the page as at the moment it doesn't actually say that - it SAYS and I quote the entire page



So once again can you show me where that information is actually shown on a page within GoFundMe's website or even on in the quote above (for it really should be there given what you are claiming).

And as you can't I do believe that I have called you out appropriately.

You tell yourself whatever lies you want to make yourself feel better eek. This thread is here for all to read together with your other posts. I’m more than content for people to make their own mind up about you and your motives.

[dammit chloe]

So given the fact that the assertions you are making in point 2 are provable FALSE why should we take the assertions you make in point 1 to be actual facts.

Seems you are provably false. Spending all your time here but ignoring the elephant.

Your last post is beyond pathetic.

[eek]

So you’re not a tax expert? My bad, from all your posts here I had assumed you were.

Below is the text of an email direct from GoFundMe which says exactly what I’ve said above.

I would post a photo of it or send to to on to whoever wishes to see it to verify the veracity of the email. Look forward to you demonstrating your towering intellect once more......

Please note: you must set up withdrawals before 16 March 2021 or donations will be refunded

Currently, you have a balance that has not been withdrawn. If withdrawals are not set up before 16 March 2021, all donations to your GoFundMe campaign will be refunded.

Bear in mind that withdrawing funds will not affect your fundraiser at all. Your fundraiser's "Total Amount Raised" meter will stay the same and you can continue accepting donations for as long as you like.

If you need any help, please see our step-by-step withdrawal set-up guide. If you are raising money for someone else, have a look at our beneficiary guide.

So put that on the page as at the moment it doesn't actually say that - it SAYS and I quote the entire page

I am a former contractor caught up in the "Loan Charge" scandal.


Many individuals who received loans before 9 Dec 2010 incorrectly believe that as the Loan Charge no longer applies, HMRC cannot and will not tax them. This is false comfort.


HMRC is continuing to pursue income tax (and NIC) from me and thousands of others with 'open' years - those with existing enquiries or discovery assessments.


I have acted as a 'lead case' and appealed those demands to the First Tier Tax Tribunal ('FTT') (heard in July 2019 ) and to the Upper Tribunal in October 2020. Funds used to meet the costs of those appeals have now been exhausted.


There are three key issues under appeal that will have wide implications for the many thousands of taxpayers being pursued by HMRC for tax on 'pre-DR' arrangements.


1) HMRC's ability to exercise a claimed discretion to recover PAYE from individuals that ought to have been deducted by the employer/end user/agency (notwithstanding that HMRC did not carry out the necessary steps to protect its position within the statutory time limits).


2). The availability of a credit to contractors for the PAYE that employers/end users/agencies ought to have deducted (it matters not which).


3) The application of the Transfer of Assets Abroad legislation to income received by the (offshore) employer which HMRC asserts contractors had a 'power to enjoy'.


The FTT found that the income of the person abroad was nil for these purposes.


These issues were argued before Judge Raghavan and Mr Justice Johnson in the Upper Tribunal in October 2020. The decision of the Upper Tribunal is awaited.


Whilst my legal team is cautiously optimistic of victory we all expect HMRC to appeal in the event that we succeed. As I wish to in the event that HMRC's arguments prevail in the Upper Tribunal.


This page therefore seeks to raise funds for any such appeal.


A letter sent by my solicitors, RPC, to my tax advisor setting out those costs can be accessed here:


RPC letter re costs


All funds raised will be remitted to RPC


No other parties will be paid from the funds raised.


I am being assisted by my tax advisor, Matt Hall, on a pro bono basis. He does not charge me for his own assistance.


If funds raised exceed the costs of the appeal (for example if the appeal is successful and I am able to recover some of my own legal costs), any surplus will be contributed to MIND in recognition of the mental health issues many facing HMRC's pursuit of taxes not properly due from them have suffered.

So once again can you show me where that refund information is actually shown on a page within GoFundMe's website paying particular attention to the appeal page itself see the quote above (for it really should be there given what you are claiming).