Rangers Tax Case

[Not Losing Any Sleep]

Looks like there is a proxcedural hearing coming up 3 Feb. More about the groundrules than anything of substance.

Taxman will not disclose cost of Rangers case | Herald Scotland

[DonkeyRhubarb]

I loved this bit.

"Her Majesty's Revenue & Customs has said it would cost too much to find out the costs"

They really are a shower of sh!te.

[Not Losing Any Sleep]

My guess is costs are £5m plus. When its not your money, very easy for a grumpy tax officer on £50k to keep instructing counsel. They should have accepted Murray Group's without prejudice offer and gone after a much easier case.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

My guess is costs are £5m plus. When its not your money, very easy for a grumpy tax officer on £50k to keep instructing counsel. They should have accepted Murray Group's without prejudice offer and gone after a much easier case.

They are sore losers.

And, by the way, they win over 80% of cases don't you know.

Bunch of tossers.

[z4thras]

They are sore losers.

And, by the way, they win over 80% of cases don't you know.

Bunch of tossers.

and here is the evidence.. 80% of cases are won by HMRC? | C3Insight
32 cases over 12 Months

[InNZ]

and here is the evidence.. 80% of cases are won by HMRC? | C3Insight
32 cases over 12 Months

We know that HRMC read this forum - if only one of them had the guts to respond to this article.

[EBTContractor]

Statistics

is the study of the collection, analysis, interpretation, presentation, and organization of data.

Then you massage the numbers until you have your answer.

99.99% of people know that.

[Wibble1]

No Contractor EBT loan cases have been won yet

They are sore losers.

And, by the way, they win over 80% of cases don't you know.

Bunch of tossers.

Not 1 contractor EBT loan scheme case has been won yet. Yes, HMRC win cases, but not 1 that is anywhere near close the the loan schemes being discussed on this forum, EBT loans. Speak with any tax expert or accountant or scheme provider and they will tell you the same.

[PrtScn]

They don't need to win

When HMRC can just issue you an APN what does it matter?

No one wants to go to court. It's expensive. For you and HMRC.
They're hoping that once they've bankrupted you and taken your money you won't want the additional stress and expense of going to court to attempt to win your money back.

They won't be in any rush to go to court either. Even if you decide the fight is worth it, you go and you win they can appeal.
AND they don't have to pay you your money back as the case goes to a tribunal.

Guilty until proven innocent.

[Wibble1]

APN's not issued

When HMRC can just issue you an APN what does it matter?

No one wants to go to court. It's expensive. For you and HMRC.
They're hoping that once they've bankrupted you and taken your money you won't want the additional stress and expense of going to court to attempt to win your money back.

They won't be in any rush to go to court either. Even if you decide the fight is worth it, you go and you win they can appeal.
AND they don't have to pay you your money back as the case goes to a tribunal.

Guilty until proven innocent.

No1 1 APN has been issued to Contractors being investigated for loans via EBT loan schemes and that's because HMRC 80% case win success rate does not include 1 case they have won against these schemes. Both these are fact. Ask any expert.