Should the nurse be sued?

[vetran]

good so you have proved my point.

it like every other medicine should be handled with extreme care.

[VectraMan]

Can the Japanese car factory methods that transformed a Seattle hospital work on the NHS? - Telegraph

Next, the hospital is trying to abolish waiting rooms. “If someone’s made an appointment months ago, shouldn’t we be ready for them when they arrive?” Dr Otero says. “Architects will build you a big waiting room with fountains but we can turn that into extra exam rooms.”

That may be the most sensible thing I've ever heard.

[vetran]

That may be the most sensible thing I've ever heard.

and then the doctor near the end of an exam suspects there is a more serious cause and has to book another appointment to investigate or overrun with people waiting in the corridor.

nothing wrong with waiting rooms, its the management of appointments that are the problem.

for instance booking everyone for 10am and making them wait for 3-4 hours because there are 20-30 people they decide to see ahead of you, or you turning up at 9:30 so you only wait 60 minutes.

Or people that obviously need assistance ahead of you (normally in a hospital wheelchair or gurney from the ward) having to wait 15 minutes for a nurse, instead of booking them later & together with a nurse / porter waiting.

That's hospital consultants for you.

Or spending 3 days in hospital because they haven't done the test yet, they know you are 'OK' to go home but they faff about.

I rarely get to see the doctor on time but a 10-20 minute wait is not a real problem. 3-4 hours in the hospital is taking the mick.

If they planned for a maximum wait of 15 minutes and measured it then they could have much smaller waiting rooms.

[psychocandy]

My Mrs is a nurse and they're constantly banging on about how they're legally responsible for their own actions. Which is fair enough - its about time that nursing as a profession was taken more seriously. They;re not just glorified ass wipers...

But the trouble is there are too many nurses out there who wont take responsibility. They prefer the old way - doctors says, nurse says yes sir. Mistake happens.

Those who do kick off are branded as troublemakers. Doctors/consultants hate it.

Also, when things do go wrong, who do you think gets the blame regardless? Hospital doesnt want to lose their top consultant but nurses are ten a penny.

In this case, depends whos fault it was. Legally nurse did the injection so its her fault - even if the doctor advised she should.

[d000hg]

good so you have proved my point.

I'm not sure that's the case.

[vetran]

in which case there should be a process that firmly plants the decision in the right place.

[original PM]

I do have to say that I think that the medical practices procecedures in this country seem to be stuck in the 1970's

I think the doctors and nurses are generally great people however there are too many people who see it is a gravy train with limited responsiblity.

It needs to be overhauled from top to bottom with the patients and not the consultants being the focus of all the work.