The ability that employers have to hire dirt cheap foreign graduates for rock bottom wages is a significant factor in youth unemployment.
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would you like fries with that degree?
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Originally posted by vetran View PostEven most of the infrastructure support guys have a degree.Comment
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Originally posted by vwdan View PostI'm not questioning your experience, but I'm infrastructure through and through and I see relatively few degrees in this world. I've only ever had one agent tell me I need one in the last 10 years - experience and relevant qualifications count for everything. Even if I had a degree, I'd drop it off my CV in favour of work experience and industry certs.
I agree in previous lives I have hired some great infrastructure guys with just experience.
I'm unusual not having one.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View Postits a huge corporate , a degree is part of the ritual dance of moving paperwork around and ticking boxes.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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Originally posted by Gittins Gal View PostWhen I went to uni in the late 80s I was under the impression that my 3 years study would be a passport to a world of opportunity.
My hopes were dashed when I graduated just in time for the early 90s recession.
I honestly don't know what I'd do now. The thought of £50K of debt must be terrifying.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by doodab View PostIt's necessary to embark on one though, and it's much the same with Mathematics, Physics or any other hard science. The problem is with the expectation that degree courses turn out fully formed worker bees IMO. They never did that.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
I honestly don't know what I'd do now. The thought of £50K of debt must be terrifying.And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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I finished my Software Engineering degree in 2005 and I don't think it served much of a purpose other than having someone to tell me what books to read in which order. And maybe a foot in the door for my first job.
I did ****-all and got a 2:1 (a lot of the other guys got firsts but nearly killed themselves for it), and I'm pretty sure with the self-learning and info available on the web these days I could achieve more starting from scratch now, in my own time, than i did in 3 years at university.
I know LOADS of chimps with degrees.
**edit** I did ****-all for the degree, but i did my own stuff and ended up a far better programmer (not that programming is all the course was about) than the other guys with their firsts.
I got my first job by showing the boss a rudimentary MUD engine I'd written. He was surprisingly impressed.Last edited by SpontaneousOrder; 4 June 2014, 11:20.Comment
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You could say that about any degree, since everything taught at degree level is in text books. But most people would not do as well with a reading list, being taught things directly and being able to ask questions is more powerful than self-study.
Even world-renowned academics still like talking to each other and meeting up in person rather than just reading each other's papers. Human interaction is important.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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