Halal Meat?

[speling bee]

I don't think the Islamic community in the Middle East would like some Christian throwing Holy Water at their animals before slaughter. So why is it acceptable in the UK.
Regardless of how the ritual is performed the fact is food hygiene and animal welfare should always come first.

Would you like to base our standards of freedom on those of oppressive countries?

Interestingly, some Islamic countries such as Qatar make special exemptions to the law to allow non-Muslims to buy alcohol and pork.

[vetran]

Interestingly, some Islamic countries such as Qatar make special exemptions to the law to allow non-Muslims to buy alcohol and pork.

not sure how happy they are about it, Dubai does it out of necessity not sure they really like it though.

[Mich the Tester]

not sure how happy they are about it, Dubai does it out of necessity not sure they really like it though.

So what? They do it. Many societies 'tolerate' activities that a majority don't like; surely it's only a good thing when an Islamic country does that?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

not sure how happy they are about it, Dubai does it out of necessity not sure they really like it though.

Non Muslims and Muslims drink alcohol in Muslim countries. If you honestly think that all Muslims in a Muslim country don't drink alcohol then you are delusional.

Edit: The Saudi princes/kings are known for their playboy lifestyles full of women, alcohol, drugs and all.

[Mich the Tester]

Non Muslims and Muslims drink alcohol in Muslim countries. If you honestly think that all Muslims in a Muslim country don't drink alcohol then you are delusional.

Take a look around the bars in Lagos (christian) when northerners (muslims) are in town; suddenly confronted with the free availability of alcohol without having got used to it.

[SueEllen]

I avoid hal-al or kosher as the killing is too stressful for the animal and more often than not they come from intensively reared farms.

So you have personally seen an animal killed in the halal/kosher way and the European way?

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

So you have personally seen an animal killed in the halal/kosher way and the European way?

Good point - also is it only at the point of slaughter where your interest stars norahe? What about the whole life of the animal? Islam brought animal rights to the forefront of society over 1400 years ago when they were made to live and die in a savage way. The way the animal lives before hand and the environment of slaughter are all part of the halal way. It is interesting to see how the media puts all it's focus on the point of slaughter (even though stunning appears to be fine for the vast vast majority!!!!)

[vetran]

So what? They do it. Many societies 'tolerate' activities that a majority don't like; surely it's only a good thing when an Islamic country does that?

it is indeed however there are tensions about it in the country as I understand it.

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

it is indeed however there are tensions about it in the country as I understand it.

I don't think there is a massive issue with pork as that does not really have any social impact. There is definitely a red line when it comes to Muslims and Islam as far as alcohol goes. It is seen as an absolute evil and so you can understand why there is tension about it. As a non-drinker myself I can tolerate alcohol but I don't really like it. For others who see it as something that is unclean and an absolute evil (due to their faith) you can understand why they would be uneasy about it.

[MicrosoftBob]

Good point - also is it only at the point of slaughter where your interest stars norahe? What about the whole life of the animal? Islam brought animal rights to the forefront of society over 1400 years ago when they were made to live and die in a savage way. The way the animal lives before hand and the environment of slaughter are all part of the halal way. It is interesting to see how the media puts all it's focus on the point of slaughter (even though stunning appears to be fine for the vast vast majority!!!!)

Would you say the same for women in muslim countries ?, apart from the subjugation, genital mutliation and marital rape would you SAY they have a pretty good life compared to those in western countries