Halal Meat?

[xoggoth]

If they are stunned in normal fashion I don't have a problem with somebody saying a daft prayer but I certainly object to the other sort which is about 12% of Halal/Kosher meat according to the RSPCA.

Also, it appears the scale of such meat we eat is being underrepresented. Some parts of the animal cannot be eaten according to Kosher law, so the whole hindquarters of meat slaughtered by Kosher methods is in fact sold as non-kosher meat.

[doodab]

Oh look a hair splitting!

I am not willing to give up meat but I don't really want to think the animal was awake when its end came.

Well even if the stunning kills it, it was awake before it was stunned. Or are you suggesting we sneak up on them while they sleep and kill them in their beds?

I can remember when I was a kid killing fish with a "priest" and gutting them. Not sure I'd fancy doing it to a cow myself, I'm glad someone else does it for me.

[darmstadt]

I remember when I was working in Israel and having Kosher chicken, tasted bloody awful in that it had no taste, plus the Magnum ice was not any good due to no dairy products used. Went over to Jaffa the next day to an Arab restaurant (with my Israeli colleagues) and it was bloody excellent. Sitting next to the Med in hot sunshine, ice cold Heineken and plates of various exotic eats...

[doodab]

More good sense here:

BBC News - Sudan woman faces death for apostasy

How do you think Muslim leaders worldwide would react if we rounded up anyone who's converted to Islam in the UK and hanged them?

[suityou01]

More good sense here:

BBC News - Sudan woman faces death for apostasy

How do you think Muslim leaders worldwide would react if we rounded up anyone who's converted to Islam in the UK and hanged them?

100 lashes first.

[speling bee]

Since religion covers all areas of life, why wouldn't it? How is how you kill an innocent cow less important than which family members you can have sex with?

Your mum certainly doesn't like to be stunned first, although she's not too fussy either way.

[xoggoth]

How do you think Muslim leaders worldwide would react if we rounded up anyone who's converted to Islam in the UK and hanged them?

Just one of a constant stream of Islamic atrocities, just three other recent attacks on school kids or students in Nigeria here:

BBC News - Nigeria school raid in Yobe state leaves 29 dead
Boko Haram Islamists in Nigeria accused of killing sleeping children | World news | theguardian.com
BBC News - Nigeria attack: Students shot dead as they slept

Last year, until I got bored with it, I briefly kept a list: (And I have all the links)
25/8/13 Nigeria 44 dead
19/9/13 Nigeria 87 dead
21/9/13-24/9/13 Nairobi 68+ dead
22/9/13 Pakistan 78+ dead
29/9/13 Nigeria up to 50 dead
29/9/13 Pakistan 33+ dead

Was that an unusual month? I don't think so. But let's keep on bleating about democratic, tolerant and peaceful Islam.

[speling bee]

Just one of a constant stream of Islamic atrocities, just three other recent attacks on school kids or students in Nigeria here:

BBC News - Nigeria school raid in Yobe state leaves 29 dead
Boko Haram Islamists in Nigeria accused of killing sleeping children | World news | theguardian.com
BBC News - Nigeria attack: Students shot dead as they slept

Last year, until I got bored with it, I briefly kept a list: (And I have all the links)
25/8/13 Nigeria 44 dead
19/9/13 Nigeria 87 dead
21/9/13-24/9/13 Nairobi 68+ dead
22/9/13 Pakistan 78+ dead
29/9/13 Nigeria up to 50 dead
29/9/13 Pakistan 33+ dead

Was that an unusual month? I don't think so. But let's keep on bleating about democratic, tolerant and peaceful Islam.

Are you keeping score of anti Muslim pogroms in Burma?

[Flashman]

God wants us to be cruel to animals. No really he does I read it somewhere.

[speling bee]

Are you keeping score of anti Muslim pogroms in Burma?

Christians can give it some welly too.

Nabil Shaath says: "President Bush said to all of us: 'I'm driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, "George, go and fight those terrorists in Afghanistan." And I did, and then God would tell me, "George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq ." And I did. And now, again, I feel God's words coming to me, "Go get the Palestinians their state and get the Israelis their security, and get peace in the Middle East." And by God I'm gonna do it.'"

BBC - Press Office - George Bush on Elusive Peace