UKIP Vs Good Old fashioned self interest

[DodgyAgent]

How do you know they're not trying to integrate but failing?

To be fair I don't.

http://www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/81...n_integration/

[darmstadt]

How do you know they're not trying to integrate but failing?

Because however much he tries, none of them will come to his bukake parties





(* without him realising that its actually a Japanese thing but you know, they all look the same, apparently )

[speling bee]

To be fair I don't.

So you just made it up.

[vetran]

Is white flight a heinous crime? Seems a bit harsh.

You are right that voters were never asked directly about immigration but I guess that's the Parliamentary system.

However, if 'voters weren't asked about x' is a critique of x, then presumably it's also a critique of:

- The monarchy
- The Parliamentary system
- The criminalisation of drugs
- The legal status of alcohol
- Capitalism
- The benefit system
- Private land ownership
- Public access to the beach below the high water mark
- The Green Belt
- Various wars
- A whole host of other things.

Indeed it is, there are many benefits to the Parliamentary system however whichever way they vote someone will always be upset and protest which of course is their right.

[speling bee]

Because however much he tries, none of them will come to his bukake parties





(* without him realising that its actually a Japanese thing but you know, they all look the same, apparently )

To be fair, they all do look fairly similar after Dodgy's party.

[speling bee]

Indeed it is, there are many benefits to the Parliamentary system however whichever way they vote someone will always be upset and protest which of course is their right.

It would be better if I was in charge.

[doodab]

The Koreans all live in New Malden and refuse to try and integrate.

There is a difference between integrating and becoming completely anglicised. I'd say they were pretty well integrated into the local community, it's not like my son doesn't play with Korean kids at school or go to their birthday parties and vice versa, and a lot of non koreans do Tae Kwon Do and go to the Korean restaurants and so on. But they have retained their own culture as well.

[vetran]

But they would have come through those countries to get to the UK whether the EU was there or not and whether we were in it or not, because the UK is where they want to be. Hitting out at the EU is complete red herring and won't change anything. It's mostly an accident of history (the empire, English being a global language, the UK having a successful economy with good employment prospects etc) and if it's anyone's fault then we need to blame successive UK governments.

Where I live for example has a massive Korean population, which is here because some Korean companies set up here post WW2 and consequentially lots of Korean refugees fled here during the Korean war. That was at the start of the 50s, so it's rather difficult to blame the EU for it.

You are aware of Sangatte aren't you?

BBC NEWS | UK | Q&A: Sangatte camp

Mich suggested high levels of immigration was a feeling, I replied to that without reference to the EU as the 'feeling' is obviously the same despite the route. People who lie & cheat to come here should be refused entry regardless of route of entry.

Those that governments imported for purposes of gerrymandering are not personally guilty of anything. That is the government's fault.

The EU is a significant route for immigration both legal & illegal that is very difficult to manage. Its not however the whole problem.

[hyperD]

It would be better if I was in charge.

And of course, it would also be better if we devised an entrance test of some sort to ensure that only the right sort of person could vote!

Vote UKIP!

[speling bee]

And of course, it would also be better if we devised an entrance test of some sort to ensure that only the right sort of person could vote!

Vote UKIN!

That would be me.