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Ukip posterboy suspended after claiming 'Miliband not British'
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Of course it is! But Farage is hardly the plucky ex-coal miner.The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
George Frederic Watts
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No, I think Farage is being undermined by the people his party has, perhaps unwittingly, attracted.Originally posted by SaltyLevels View PostI think this is my view all along; it's great we're having this debate, it's great it's outing a lot of peoples views and policies.
I can't help but think Farange is being stitched up by the elite though, funny as it is, I still think it's happening!And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014Comment
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FTFYOriginally posted by hyperD View PostVote UKIN!The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
George Frederic Watts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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Not form the other chaps perspective in that his parents aren't, and he doesn't have the genealogical make up of being British. That was his point, and in that, you can see the point.Originally posted by speling bee View PostTechnically he's British.
If Miliband is technically British, then I am technically German.
That's the rub of it, he's british by the location of his birth, not his parents. I have a friend who was born here to italian parents. He considers himself to be Italian. Despite preferring tea to coffee and Porsche to ferrari...
You can argue both sides. I am English, but technically, presuming your point, German.Comment
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Are you a German citizen?Originally posted by SaltyLevels View PostNot form the other chaps perspective in that his parents aren't, and he doesn't have the genealogical make up of being British. That was his point, and in that, you can see the point.
If Miliband is technically British, then I am technically German.
That's the rub of it, he's british by the location of his birth, not his parents. I have a friend who was born here to italian parents. He considers himself to be Italian. Despite preferring tea to coffee and Porsche to ferrari...
You can argue both sides. I am English, but technically, presuming your point, German.The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.
George Frederic Watts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_ParkComment
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That's a strawman and you know it.
His point is that he doesn't have the genealogical make up of being British, in that his parents aren't British, that his parents cultural, religious and national make up was not British. In that point of HIS, he is correct. He is English not by parent, but location, as much as I am German by the same thing. Does having citizenry make you one of them? A friend recently become a citizen of the US of A, does that make him american? My friends parents were immigrants from Italy who are English citizens, but that's a piece of paper, as they are in every facet of life Italians.Comment
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I started to watch that video, but I got an advert for George Ezra's song "Budapest".Originally posted by Pondlife View PostHis YouTube account is still going.
It seems he liked that woman's racist outburst on the train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TfDKvw7FlQ
Bloody immigrants, coming over here, taking our adverts, etc.Comment
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FTFY - Bristolian, now Herfordshire.Originally posted by TheFaQQer View PostI started to watch that video, but I got an advert for George Ezra Barnett's song "Budapest".
Bloody immigrants, coming over here, taking our adverts, etc.
Cracking song mind
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