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The Times predictable attack on Farage

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    #81
    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
    My ones are slightly different which goes to show that no-one really agrees
    But the second one and to an extent the first one agrees with the one I showed for example, as do the rest in principle, but regardless, you accept my premise that there's more than just "left" and "right" and perhaps more to do with big and small state/authoritarianism?
    If you think my attitude stinks, you should smell my fingers.

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      #82
      Vote UKIP!

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        #83
        Originally posted by speling bee View Post
        National socialism is right wing.
        :
        Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

        No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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          #84
          Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
          :
          So do you think the German Democratic Republic was democratic?
          The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

          George Frederic Watts

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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            #85
            Originally posted by speling bee View Post
            So do you think the German Democratic Republic was democratic?
            Do you honestly think the UK is actually democratic?

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              #86
              Originally posted by TykeMerc View Post
              Do you honestly think the UK is actually democratic?
              I think the UK is more democratic than the German Democratic Republic was.

              Democracy is better seen as a continuum than as a binary state.
              The material prosperity of a nation is not an abiding possession; the deeds of its people are.

              George Frederic Watts

              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postman's_Park

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                #87
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                And just who's interests do the EU and its governing people act for exactly?
                Some of them act for the people, some of them act for businesses, some of them act for themselves; a bit like all politicians and civil servants.
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #88
                  Isn't this all about him simply using an allowance? If it's an allowance and not an expense, then surely it's a non issue?

                  He is an odious fella though; he looks like he'd start a fight and hide behind someone whilst it kicked off.

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                    #89
                    Some of them act for the people, some of them act for businesses, some of them act for themselves; a bit like all politicians and civil servants.
                    Quite. If they disagree with how UKIP spend EU money, perhaps some should consider that that is also a criticism of the EU - the unnecessary employment, the excessive pay and perks these people get and the lack of transparency.

                    How many years is it now that the auditors have failed to approve the EU budget?

                    Audit 'seriously undermines credibility' of EU spending - Telegraph
                    bloggoth

                    If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
                    John Wayne (My guru, not to be confused with my beloved prophet Jeremy Clarkson)

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                      This thread proves a theory I've long held to be true:

                      The lower the IQ, the greater the propensity to believe in conspiracy theories.
                      Knock first as I might be balancing my chakras.

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