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The Times predictable attack on Farage

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    #61
    Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
    So you don't believe in the concept of infiltration behind enemy lines/spies etc etc?
    Yes, if you have a real enemy.
    And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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      #62
      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
      They all have one thing in common - they are all on the gravy train. UKIP are milking it whilst it lasts.
      Milking the gravy train, eh?

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        #63
        Originally posted by Platypus View Post
        Milking the gravy train, eh?
        That is going straight onto the old man's service menu.

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          #64
          Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
          the right who are in actual fact the side of the political spectrum who are more liable to want this type of organisation, subdue your democratic rights, blah blah, etc.
          Really? The right are more inclined to do this than the left? I've never had you down as naive, but in this I think you are

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            #65
            Originally posted by Mich the Tester View Post
            Yes, if you have a real enemy.
            And just who's interests do the EU and its governing people act for exactly?
            Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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              #66
              Originally posted by speling bee View Post
              In the way that you suggest they may be.
              I didn't suggest that they were - that's the point. I suggested that the two statements were similar in nature.

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                #67
                Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                And just who's interests do the EU and its governing people act for exactly?
                You: French MEP: EU means 'porn without borders' - The Local
                Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Platypus View Post
                  Really? The right are more inclined to do this than the left? I've never had you down as naive, but in this I think you are
                  I didn't realise that National Socialism was a left wing ideal

                  Left wing beliefs are usually progressive in nature, they look to the future, aim to support those who cannot support themselves, are idealist and believe in equality. People who are left wing believe in taxation to redistribute opportunity and wealth - things like a national health service, and job seeker’s allowance are fundamentally left wing ideas. They believe in equality over the freedom to fail.
                  Right wing beliefs value tradition, they are about equity, survival of the fittest, and they believe in economic freedom. They typically believe that business shouldn’t be regulated, and that we should all look after ourselves. Right wing people tend believe they shouldn’t have to pay for someone else’s education or health service. They believe in freedom to succeed over equality.
                  Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by darmstadt View Post
                    Aren't they the newspaper owned by two brothers of whom one supposedly paid for the UKIP to have a party at a club in London for Farage's debate with Clegg?







                    (* and also own the Ritz which pays minimal tax)
                    I forgot but this brother also paid for some of the treatment on Farage's back complaint (after his plane crash, I believe it was for an operation) and for his 50th birthday party...at the Ritz. It also seems that the Telegraph are backing UKIP, up to a point which should level out the playing field in terms of media coverage (Murdoch doesn't particularly like Cameron so expect to see some pro-UKIP coverage in News International titles soon, i.e. "Left Tit or Right Tit. You're a real Tit if you don't vote UKIP!!!")
                    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                      #70
                      I never knew the EU created xhamster
                      Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

                      No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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