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Ratio of B.A.s to Developers
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostIt doesn't need a rocket scientist at all, but it needs someone who understands the business - niche knowledge rather than complexity if that makes sense. I got a very nice piece of work sorting out a mess of a clinical system project where the developers and clinical teams simply couldn't properly communicate with each other to design and build a system that would efficiently and safely support business process and required data flows.
This causes the kind of screw up you are fixing. It nearly always starts with the Rocket Science statement!Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by BjornMorg View PostAll,
I'm interested to know what your experiences are of this ratio
i.e. number of B.A.s in an I.T. department compared to Developers (including the DBAs)
(NB. The "10" figure includes all Architects/Devs/Testers/PMs)nomadd liked this postComment
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Originally posted by vetran View PostYou missed the point, it isn't that complicated but no one actually has ever documented it (its all Tribal Knowledge) and when they attempt to no one in the business actually knows how it works.
This causes the kind of screw up you are fixing. It nearly always starts with the Rocket Science statement!Comment
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Even in a well organised business with a well documented process, BAing could easily be a full-time job for anything less than trivial - so why would you get a developer to be a BA?
Lots of BAs are tulipe, and are just there because it's expected - just like loads of 'agile' dev teams are tulipe and are just 'doing agile' because its expected, even though if you asked them "to what end?" they wouldn't say anything remotely similar to "to allow the business to achieve a state of agility".
A good BA on a project which would benefit from a BA is a valuable asset.Comment
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I like to consider this in building terms.
Developers = brick layers, electricians, plumbers, labourers
Testers = Health and Safety bod who turns up
Technical Architect = Architect
Manager = Site Foreman
BA = Planning Officers
Customer = Client
Effectively, left to their own devices the electricians, plumbers, labourers etc are going to sit on the arses, scratching their bollocks, making cups of tea until the foreman tells them to get on with it. He's going to use the plans drawn up by the architect under the direction of the planning office. Every now and then the Health & Safety bod is going to turn up and make some general noise but on the whole not actually contribute a huge amount of stuff.
You're all paid by Customer, who effectively paid for the plans in the first place, got planning permission and did all the work to get to this point. Everyone on the site reckons they're doing the customer a favour building his house but in truth without him they'd all be on the dole.What happens in General, stays in General.You know what they say about assumptions!Comment
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Thanks for this thread - I've been genuinely wondering what a BA actually does. (I don't have anything to do with this side of IT)Comment
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Originally posted by vwdan View PostThanks for this thread - I've been genuinely wondering what a BA actually does. (I don't have anything to do with this side of IT)Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostAre you any the wiser? Apparently they're like planning officers: look at the plans and say yes or no depending on whether the right shade of brown is being used.Comment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostAre you any the wiser? Apparently they're like planning officers: look at the plans and say yes or no depending on whether the right shade of brown is being used.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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