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Would you go to a gay wedding?

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    #71
    Originally posted by CheeseSlice View Post
    I've been to a civil partnership ceremony and I'd probably go to a gay wedding if they were good friends.

    I have sympathy for those that feel uncomfortable with gay weddings. I'm quite a libertarian person and I think that anyone should be able to do what they feel like with others so long as the others consent to it and are mature and mindful of what they're consenting to.

    What I disagree with, and where my sympathy comes from, is when a group of like minded people feel they can impose their own beliefs on others, and then to not accept them is to be racist, homophobic, etc.

    I think anyone should be free to feel uncomfortable, uneasy or dislike somebody because of the way they look, talk, behave, or simply because they get a certan itch about them. I also support the church if it doesn't want to carry out gay marriage ceremonies. I don't think they should be forced to do it. Then again I'm not religious and I view the church like some kind of club, and clubs have their own rules.

    That is the most sensible post I think I've ever read on this site.

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      #72
      This was a surprise piece of legislation by Dave and is very much to his credit.

      He did it not because it was popular but because it was right.
      "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
      - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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        #73
        Changed my mind a bit on this. All in favour of equal rights but I did think that having gay marriage when we already had a civil ceremony was just stirring up resentment unnecessarily over terminology. As with the EU, spoiling a good idea by pressing ahead too fast.

        However, now it's done, good. The furore should mostly die down if people aren't pushed into accepting it and, let's face it, we could have gone another thousand years and the religious would still have opposed it. Unlike the EU it's a fairly trivial issue and, provided they don't start trying to force it on churches, it isn't as though it really impacts anyone else.
        bloggoth

        If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
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          #74
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          Originally posted by cojak View Post
          This was a surprise piece of legislation by Dave and is very much to his credit.

          He did it not because it was popular but because it was right.
          Call me cynical but he did it to gain the pink vote (and to deprive Labour of it) just like he tried to buy the greys in the budget a couple of weeks ago.

          He is a politician , not a philanthropist.

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            #75
            Originally posted by cojak View Post
            This was a surprise piece of legislation by Dave and is very much to his credit.

            He did it not because it was popular but because it was right.
            That's the scary thing . When people know they are "right".

            What if he's not right?

            Maybe our parents' generation was right. I seem to remember being told by everyone from family members to schoolteachers that homosexuality wasn't right but that we should be compassionate to those who are oriented that way (although it wasn't really talked about that much tbh).

            30 years on and the whole thing has been turned on its head and we are expected to celebrate people's gayness. Personally, I dont really give a hoot but I am concerned about subversive elements using this pro-gay legislation as I mentioned in an earlier post.

            Still, looks like the CofE is going to roll over to have its tummy tickled from what I was reading earlier. That, for me, would probably be the last straw and I'll be doing what I've always considered unthinkable and going over to RC.

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              #76
              Originally posted by Gittins Gal View Post
              That's the scary thing . When people know they are "right".

              What if he's not right?

              Maybe our parents' generation was right. I seem to remember being told by everyone from family members to schoolteachers that homosexuality wasn't right but that we should be compassionate to those who are oriented that way (although it wasn't really talked about that much tbh).

              30 years on and the whole thing has been turned on its head and we are expected to celebrate people's gayness. Personally, I dont really give a hoot but I am concerned about subversive elements using this pro-gay legislation as I mentioned in an earlier post.

              Still, looks like the CofE is going to roll over to have its tummy tickled from what I was reading earlier. That, for me, would probably be the last straw and I'll be doing what I've always considered unthinkable and going over to RC.
              Of course the CofE will roll over - it's wishy-washy and that's also to it's credit - that's how it's survived 400 years keeping so many High and Low views together.

              Good grief, where would we be if the CofE took a stand on anything.

              We'd be in Italy - that's where we'd be...
              "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
              - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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                #77
                Originally posted by cojak View Post
                Of course the CofE will roll over - it's wishy-washy and that's also to it's credit - that's how it's survived 400 years keeping so many High and Low views together.

                Good grief, where would we be if the CofE took a stand on anything.

                We'd be in Italy - that's where we'd be...
                Didin't it all start though with the Italians being here? Wasn't any problem with the Scots once we built that wall, now Downing St wants a wall to keep them in

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post
                  I think that:
                  1) Any gays who campaigned for the legislation are idiots.
                  2) What two people do and how they arrange their personal affairs is no business of the church or the state.
                  3) Why the **** would anyone care if the church or state recognised their union?!
                  4) Anyone who has a strong opinion on the matter is almost certainly a busybody loser with nothing better to do that try to control what other people do in there own lives.

                  I mean, come on... this surely is the non-topic of the 21st century?!
                  So if mixed race couples were told that they could no longer get married but could enjoy the benefits of civil partnerships, there could be no reasonable objection?

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                    #79
                    would you go to a wedding where the couple were 14 years old. what about if the groom were 56 and the bride was 14.
                    I think Dave should allow the 14 year olds to get married, after all, they can do it in some countries.
                    Therefore its only right, innit

                    moral equivilence, dontcha just love it
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                      #80
                      I am currently on a diet and so think eating cake is not what I should be doing. The rest of my slimming world group agrees with me.

                      Anyone else who eats cake is an abomination. How dare other people eat cake if I am on a diet.

                      Hang 'em I say.

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