Geert Wilders: "We want less Moroccans!"

[Old Greg]

Actually not, because he said: "Minder" in Dutch that can be translated as less or fewer.

For the pedants, I've actually been to school, you can say 'less' before plural names if it means a whole category. "The Moroccans" in this case is a collective noun, hence you can use "less".

And did you learn when to use a full stop at this school?

[petergriffin]

And did you learn when to use a full stop at this school?

i dont remember it was long time ago and why are u asking ur hurting my feelings

[Old Greg]

i dont remember it was long time ago and why are u asking ur hurting my feelings

I apologise. It was just a bit of silliness.

[Eirikur]

From your username, can I guess you're of Turkish origin?

Just like Farage (and Cleggs).

How would you call a redneck in Dutch?

No my username is the Icelandic version of my real first name

Cleggs is not anti immigration like Farage and Wilders

Not sure if there's a proper Dutch term for redneck, nothing comes to mind at the moment

[mos]

i dont remember it was long time ago and why are u asking ur hurting my feelings

[NotAllThere]

Actually not, because he said: "Minder" in Dutch that can be translated as less or fewer.

For the pedants, I've actually been to school, you can say 'less' before plural names if it means a whole category. "The Moroccans" in this case is a collective noun, hence you can use "less".

You may have been to school, but either you didn't pay attention or you had a crap English teacher.*

You can use "less" when you're referring to things that can't be counted, or where there's no plural, and in conjunction with "than" (Less than...).

You can use "fewer" when you're referring to things that can be counted, in the plural. And in conjunction with "than" (Fewer than...)

Source "Oxford Modern English Grammar".




* Or you're very old, since it's "Modern" English Grammar.

[mos]

You know, much as I disagree with Nigel Farage I'd be very surprised if he would stoop as low as Wilders did last night. I don't think he would, and I don't think that most UKIP supporters would tolerate what Wilders did. I think they're misguided, but most of them aren't complete bigots.

Farage v Wilders from the standpoint of the so called Eastern European...cannot see any difference in tactics between the two gentlemen.

[mos]

You can use "less" when you're referring to things that can't be counted, or where there's no plural, and in conjunction with "than" (Less than...).

Nah...

Flood, hordes, waves, criminal masses ... who can count all the baddies. Border Agency can't ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pog-9whOlCw

Dutch deserve all immigrants they get from Morocco, Surinam, Turkey and Indonesia.

[xoggoth]

If the crime figures quoted in some sources are anything like true, can't say I blame him:

Another exception is that the so-called age-crime curves show extremely high crime rates for Moroccans teenagers residing in the Netherlands – by comparison much higher than the crime rates relating to other ethnic groups.

http://epc2014.princeton.edu/uploads/140405

The link of young male migrants to Europe from some areas and crime is not a right wing myth. Some like to argue about reasons but one could reasonably ask, why should it be our problem in the first place? If those from particular nations have not succeeded in the past for whatever reason we should raise the bar to ensure those we take in in future do succeed.

It is tackling problems honestly with policies based impartially on facts that lowers real racism. Constantly dismissing valid concerns only raises resentment and makes more people support those like Wilders.

[mos]

The link of young male migrants to Europe from some areas and crime is not a right wing myth. (...)
It is tackling problems honestly with policies based impartially on facts that lowers real racism. Constantly dismissing valid concerns only raises resentment and makes more people support those like Wilders.

I am afraid it's biased, even assuming the best will in the world to fairly and truthfully represent data, and its because the official statistics tend to penalise communities which are more integrated and therefore under the radar of the official legal system. Chief Inspector of Constabulary, Tom Winsor, given in an interview with The Times newspaper said: ‘There are some communities born under other skies who will not involve the police at all’.