NSS - migrants displace workers.

[vetran]

What's stopping the UK deporting criminals?

we can deport them but having reasonably porous borders and a default assumption that EU entrants are admitted they seem to return with ease.

[Mich the Tester]

we can deport them but having reasonably porous borders and a default assumption that EU entrants are admitted they seem to return with ease.

They can be excluded for definite and indefinite periods for committing crimes. The EU's rules on freedom of movement don't stop you doing that, as long as you get British law sorted out.

The important principle is proportionality; you can't deport an EU national for getting drunk and stumbling home, but if he presents a danger you can deport him of you follow the correct procedure which is actually pretty much standard in British law anyway.

Proportionality
When it comes to public policy and public security, measures taken on these grounds must
be:
• proportionate (expulsion is a very considerable interference in a person's life and must
be proportionate to the seriousness of the breach of public policy or public security); and
• based exclusively on the personal conduct of the individual concerned which
must represent a genuine, present and sufficiently serious threat affecting one of
the fundamental interests of society.

http://ec.europa.eu/justice/policies...vement_low.pdf

[MicrosoftBob]

we can deport them but having reasonably porous borders and a default assumption that EU entrants are admitted they seem to return with ease.

The fact that an island can have open borders, is a deliberate failure by sucessive governments

[vetran]

The fact that an island can have open borders, is a deliberate policy by sucessive governments

ftfy.

they want cheap labour to hold wages down. MandelSlime admitted it.

[Mich the Tester]

The fact that an island can have open borders, is a deliberate failure by sucessive governments

How open are the UK's borders? I remember that 20 years ago I used to arrive at East Midlands airport and be waved through by a guy sitting in casual clothes behind a passport desk, reading (or looking at tits in) the Sun. Nowadays when I arrive at airports I see a row (if I'm lucky and they've staffed all the desks) of uniformed officials who proceed to ask me how long I intend to stay in the UK (I'd like to say 'as long as I bloody well like', being a British citizen, but I'd rather avoid the hassle), taking a long look at my passport and staring me in the face, and so on. If I get the train from Brussels I go through Belgian passport control and then 5 metres further up through UK passport control.

[doodab]

they want cheap labour to hold wages down. MandelSlime admitted it.

That's what "Business friendly" means. Anything else makes you unelectable.

[sasguru]

If that is what everyone who isn't as intelligent as SAS thinks he is.

Nothing to do with being more intelligent than most, although statistically I am.
The reason why I'm prospering is that more than 10 years ago during a slow down in the economy (post dot com crash) where I couldn't find a job, I uprooted myself from my cosy life in London, rented out my flat, got into debt to re-train in a Masters degree on the other side of the country, in a city where I knew no-one. I was a 30+ guy living in a student house. I then had to re-establish myself in a changed career so that I could pay my London mortgage. That took about 3 years where I had to rent.

It was fooking hard but now I'm coining it.

So you'll forgive me if I have no fooking sympathy at all with lazy whining fookers who expect every-fooking-thing on a fooking plate.
Ok?

[original PM]

but does keeping wages down make UK products more competitive in the marketplace or just allow senior management to take bigger bonuses...

[Mich the Tester]

So you'll forgive me if I have no fooking sympathy at all with lazy whining fookers who expect every-fooking-thing on a fooking plate.

+1

[vetran]

Nothing to do with being more intelligent than most, although statistically I am.
The reason why I'm prospering is that more than 10 years ago during a slow down in the economy (post dot com crash) where I couldn't find a job, I uprooted myself from my cosy life in London, rented out my flat, got into debt to re-train in a Masters degree on the other side of the country, in a city where I knew no-one. I was a 30+ guy living in a student house. I then had to re-establish myself in a changed career so that I could pay my London mortgage. That took about 3 years where I had to rent.

It was fooking hard but now I'm coining it.

So you'll forgive me if I have no fooking sympathy at all with lazy whining fookers who expect every-fooking-thing on a fooking plate.
Ok?

Oh you have the monopoly on retraining yourself? You assume no one else has had to redevelop themselves in their career? The point is that is why we are fairly safe employment wise. The less intelligent or fortunate people don't have the option.

No its not OK, lets hope when they take to the streets they do your house first. You really are an opinionated, ignorant, selfish ahsole.