The official "World War ]i[" thread

[The Spartan]

So better to straighten the deck chairs on the titanic then?

Not quite it's more about avoiding a potential iceberg rather than ploughing towards it.

[minestrone]

Obama's aids have been trying to explain the situation to him and what his options are...



He is hoping to role a 6 next turn.

[doodab]

So better to straighten the deck chairs on the titanic then?

Better to go into properly prepared at the right time.

It's only "straightening the deck chairs on the titanic" if you believe Putin is planning on invading Europe in the next few years.

I wouldn't put my hand on heart and say he isn't as he's clearly potty, but if that is the case then a half hearted show of force now would be nothing more than Dunkirk mk II. We would need a deployment on the scale of the Iraq war or larger, and longer term we need to arm ourselves and reduce our dependence on Russian oil & gas.

At least it will give the unemployed something to do. Fight or lose your benefits.

[suityou01]

Not quite it's more about avoiding a potential iceberg rather than ploughing towards it.

Precisely. Although as far as this thread goes, you and Doodab are worrying about an icecube, while I have my eye firmly fixed on the iceberg.

[doodab]

Obama's aids have been trying to explain the situation to him and what his options are...



He is hoping to role a 6 next turn.

Many is the sunday afternoon that disappeared in a whirl of Risk and Monopoly. I'll have to order that on Amazon now.

[MicrosoftBob]

Obama's aids have been trying to explain the situation to him and what his options are...



He is hoping to role a 6 next turn.

Surely this would be more appropriate as it's Risk with nukes

[doodab]

Precisely. Although as far as this thread goes, you and Doodab are worrying about an icecube, while I have my eye firmly fixed on the iceberg.

No, I'm saying that steering straight for it in a mirror dinghy armed with a peashooter is a really ******* dumb idea.

[suityou01]

Better to go into properly prepared at the right time.

It's only "straightening the deck chairs on the titanic" if you believe Putin is planning on invading Europe in the next few years.

I wouldn't put my hand on heart and say he isn't as he's clearly potty, but if that is the case then a half hearted show of force now would be nothing more than Dunkirk mk II. We would need a deployment on the scale of the Iraq war or larger, and longer term we need to arm ourselves and reduce our dependence on Russian oil & gas.

At least it will give the unemployed something to do. Fight or lose your benefits.

You should be aware NATO have already issued a statement saying the current tensions are a threat to peace and security in Europe. As in now, not a few years time.

[suityou01]

No, I'm saying that steering straight for it in a mirror dinghy armed with a peashooter is a really ******* dumb idea.

So you agree with me then that a proper strategic response is necessary in parallel with diplomacy and we are losing time?

Or are you disagreeing with me and saying let's give diplomacy a chance as any other posturing would automatically escalate things?

[doodab]

You should be aware NATO have already issued a statement saying the current tensions are a threat to peace and security in Europe. As in now, not a few years time.

Yes, I am aware. It's a statement. They've also repeatedly stressed the importance of dialogue, democratic process and international law. And mentioned that they aren't planning a response (although I expect that is BS and behind the scenes they are planning like crazy)

FWIW my house is on one of the main helicopter flight paths over south London and the Chinook activity is much greater than normal, we normally get the odd one among the civilian flights but I've had 3 or 4 go over today.