Ed Miliband: 'Britain is sleepwalking to a climate crisis'

[BlasterBates]

If cooling was about to commence would you or would you not expect the polar ice cap to expand?



Perhaps William was a little hasty in declaring imminent global cooling as "bunk".

[Bunk]

If cooling was about to commence would you or would you not expect the polar ice cap to expand?



Perhaps William was a little hasty in declaring imminent global cooling as "bunk".

[pjclarke]

A weather man who has published in a prestigious journal on global weather stations

You mean Fall et al 2011 which was actually about US temperature stations, and Anthony Watts was a coauthor, his only foray into the 'literature' so far. This is a good microcosm of the 'debate'.

On his blog and in his ludicrous Heartland-funded 'reports' Watts has continually claimed that the US station record is corrupted and biased warm, and as this is the best in the world .... e.g.

Instrumental temperature data for the pre-satellite era (1850-1980) have been so widely, systematically, and uni-directionally tampered with that it cannot be credibly asserted there has been any significant “global warming” in the 20th century.

is how 'SURFACE TEMPERATURE RECORDS: POLICY-DRIVEN DECEPTION?' opens.

But of course blogs and self-published reports are not peer-reviewed. When subject to that scrutiny, the resultant paper, of which Watts was a coauthor, found no difference in the trend in mean temperatures recorded by 'good and 'bad' sited stations, and that the statistical QA methods applied to the data were doing a reasonable job of ensuring accuracy. Must suck to be him.

[pjclarke]

Not looking so good now Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

[BlasterBates]

Never mind the length!

Polar Science Center » PIOMAS Arctic Sea Ice Volume Anomaly

2014 is starting with a January ice volume of 17,500 km3 which is 1,700 km3 larger than in 2013 and roughly what it was in 2010.

10% more ice than last year.

[Flashman]

Will the BBC / Ed miliband and all the rest apologise for their climate change scaremongering now?


How Somerset Levels river flooded after it was not dredged for decades - Telegraph

A spokesman for the FLAG group has got hold of meticulous rainfall records for the area around the Parrett and Tone for the last 20 years.

They reveal between December 1993 and Febuary 1994 around 20 inches of rain fell - five inches less than during the same time this year.

A spokesman for the group said: "So roughly the same rainfall but far more flooding now.

"What has changed? Dredging seems to be the biggest obvious difference between then and now."

[xoggoth]

You are probably quite right Flashman but identifying a major short term cause does not in itself rule out the long term effect of others.

[pjclarke]

And calling a 25% increase 'roughly the same' is bizarre. Plus its the intensity that causes the floods, they were probably a result of the record rainfall in January falling on saturated ground rather than the integral of the previous months.

[doodab]

I disagree. Mitigating the effects costs money. Most of those affected live in the middle of nowhere.

Not.mitigating the effects appears to be rather costly, and while I concede that surrey doesn't have the tube it's hardly the middle of nowhere.

[EternalOptimist]

And calling a 25% increase 'roughly the same' is bizarre. Plus its the intensity that causes the floods, they were probably a result of the record rainfall in January falling on saturated ground rather than the integral of the previous months.

No Nathaniel

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