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We should all urge Scots to stay in Scotland

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    #61
    Edinburgh does have a proper financial services sector this is true, it's not just outsourcing of back office stuff. Par of the appeal of Edinburgh over say Frankfurt or Paris is the fact it's in the UK though. That means the legal and regulatory frameworks are well established and well respected, effectively it's like doing business in London. An independent Scotland might be able to base it's systems on ours but it won't have the BoE or the same track record so it will take a bit of time to establish the same level of confidence I expect. I don't know if institutions would move lock, stock and barrel but they might prefer to relocate some stuff or direct future investment to the UK.
    Last edited by doodab; 8 February 2014, 18:57.
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      #62
      Originally posted by doodab View Post
      That means the legal and regulatory frameworks are well established and well respected, effectively it's like doing business in London.
      So why are they not doing it in London in the first place?

      If Scotland dropped corp rates to 10% then it would get plenty of banks move there.

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        #63
        Originally posted by AtW View Post
        So why are they not doing it in London in the first place?
        Because Edinburgh, being in the UK, is a very viable alternative. Take it out of the UK and it becomes somewhat less so.
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          #64
          Originally posted by doodab View Post
          Because Edinburgh, being in the UK, is a very viable alternative. Take it out of the UK and it becomes somewhat less so.
          Cut corp tax to 10% and no bank levy and suddenly Edinburgh becomes very attractive to City Banks...

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            #65
            What does the BoE add to the mix, exactly? Or the FCA/PRA? London offers huge network advantages and a very skilled, large labour pool. Although you could make the argument that the regulatory framework is banker-friendly in the UK, I wouldn't pin it down on that. Scotland would like to be part of this because it makes managing the currency that much easier, but it could still join the Euro if it wanted the benefit of a widely accepted, somewhat decently managed currency. I don't think either the £ or the Euro are really that well managed but since all things are relative, lets say they are.

            So I really don't think being part of the UK is necessary for Edinburgh to flourish, either. Cut the red tape and keep taxes low and high skilled workers, entrepreneurs and capitalists will follow. Only problem is the EU is not fond of tax competition, but hey ho, they're in a gradually weakening position anyway.

            The wherewithal to bail out reckless banks is already dissipating in England, anyway, and that is for the better. What both England and Scotland should aim to attract are manufacturing jobs, since they already possess advanced financial hubs.

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              #66
              Do you think we could return to the 5 nations rugby and boot scotland out. They are so sh*t at rugby (and soccer for that matter) that they are demeaning the standard of EU sport. Maybe they should form a league with Greenland and a few other nations of a similar standard.
              Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                #67
                Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                Slay the dreamer, eh doodab?

                Gordo should never have been PM - where was our vote? How is this democracy?
                Yeah he was a bit too right wing for Scotland, you'll get who you deserve

                Time to go off and wallow in your socialist utopia, it's been nice subsidising you
                Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

                No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Cut corp tax to 10% and no bank levy and suddenly Edinburgh becomes very attractive to City Banks...
                  Assuming they don't start a trade war, and no other European countries drop their rates, and they import enough Indians so they have accents that could actually be understood
                  Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

                  No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View Post
                    Assuming they don't start a trade war, and no other European countries drop their rates, and they import enough Indians so they have accents that could actually be understood
                    Ireland has got 12.5% and so far most of EU countries did not drop their corp tax rates.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by AtW View Post
                      Cut corp tax to 10% and no bank levy and suddenly Edinburgh becomes very attractive to City Banks...
                      So why did they all choose Edinburgh in the first place then? There are plenty of places with lower taxes.

                      Notwithstanding existing businesses like RBS & Scottish Widows, Edinburgh has flourished for much the same reasons Leeds has. Take it out of the UK and Leeds will overtake it IMO. The likes of Tesco & Virgin will likely move if Edinburgh turns out to be a Foreign country.
                      Last edited by doodab; 8 February 2014, 21:37.
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