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    #51
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    And would the Englishman do the right thing and realise this is not about an identity competition.

    This is about regional governance that can make a difference for those living in the region unlike a distance group locked in a far away city.
    If this is the case would MPs elected in Scotland kindly stop voting on English and Welsh matters.

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      #52
      Originally posted by DaveB View Post
      The real fun is going to be when they start to try and unpick the dependancies on systems and services hosted in England. Welfare and Benefits information will have to be extracted from the DWP and the services replicated for a start, Revenue and Customs will be the same and it's all going to need hooking together with a new national network, and thats just the obvious stuff. The governance and assurance processes alone are going to take years to iron out.

      Still, where there's muck, there's brass
      They won't need benefits systems. Everyone will be given a little bonsai miniature money tree they can harvest as they need.
      While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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        #53
        Originally posted by doodab View Post
        They won't need benefits systems. Everyone will be given a micro brewery they can harvest as they need.
        FTFY
        Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.

        No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.

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          #54
          Just been watching the whitepaper launch discussion in Scottish Parliament.
          Nicola Sturgeon was in the hot seat trying to field some very important questions. Most of the questions coming out are about gaps in funding for promises being made, why there are no planB's (e.g. use of the Pound) and why SNP haven't already done some of the things in the whitepaper they already have the power to do. Maybe its just normal politics but her responses are effectively party lines, repeating the unqualified assertions, blaming Westminster, or go read pages xxx-yyy from the whitepaper, to which SNP give a roaring applause whilst the person who asked the question shakes head and mouths 'its not in there'.

          You'd think they would have some more of the detail covered by now. They really do seem and act like an opposition party who don't really need to commit to anything. If they actually win this referendum, the SNP are going to have nobody to blame but themselves when this goes bad.

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            #55
            Originally posted by CheeseSlice View Post
            If they actually win this referendum, the SNP are going to have nobody to blame but themselves when this goes bad.
            And its going to be fun to watch
            merely at clientco for the entertainment

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              #56
              Originally posted by eek View Post
              And its going to be fun to watch
              Unfortunately it seems to be mostly Scots living abroad (and who therefore don't get a vote) who support independence, whereas the majority of educated Scots I know (i.e. those not from Glasgow) don't want to leave, so it will almost certainly fail.

              I think it was a Constitutional Studies unit at UCL or somewhere that said today that if the Yes vote won and then the SNP failed to live up to their promises, the people of Scotland should be given another vote on whether to rejoin, as they'd have voted under misleading circumstances. If that were to happen, however, what with it being a foreign country wishing to join the UK, surely the rest of the UK would have to be consulted and give their agreement via a referendum?

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                #57
                Originally posted by Ticktock View Post
                Unfortunately it seems to be mostly Scots living abroad (and who therefore don't get a vote) who support independence, whereas the majority of educated Scots I know (i.e. those not from Glasgow) don't want to leave, so it will almost certainly fail.

                I think it was a Constitutional Studies unit at UCL or somewhere that said today that if the Yes vote won and then the SNP failed to live up to their promises, the people of Scotland should be given another vote on whether to rejoin, as they'd have voted under misleading circumstances. If that were to happen, however, what with it being a foreign country wishing to join the UK, surely the rest of the UK would have to be consulted and give their agreement via a referendum?
                Salmond may well have shot himself in the foot because the document seems to be more of a SNP election manifesto than a real plan as to how an independent Scotland will work.
                And what exactly is wrong with an "ad hominem" argument? Dodgy Agent, 16-5-2014

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by russell View Post
                  That gap is filled with a mix of Oil and Whisky.
                  They are an inventive lot these scots
                  Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Ticktock View Post
                    Unfortunately it seems to be mostly Scots living abroad (and who therefore don't get a vote) who support independence, whereas the majority of educated Scots I know (i.e. those not from Glasgow) don't want to leave, so it will almost certainly fail.
                    Whereas the majority of educated English I know (i.e. not those from London) don't want to see a country divided but understand why it's happening. Disillusionment of the state. They can see it's broken & unfair. That's not a society many in Scotland want to be a part of.

                    Yes because most Scots living abroad went to look for new opportunities as they were not to be found at home. How awful it is to leave home & family in search of prospects new. But that's the Tory way.
                    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
                      They are an inventive lot these scots
                      That's "they're" recruitment agent or were you off sick the day they taught contractions?
                      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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