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    #21
    Originally posted by Zippy View Post
    WHS with knobs on.

    Personally I'd only attempt to read this after a large spliff, 'cos at least then I'd find it funny.
    Sounds like a plan!

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      #22
      I really don't like the guy - i find him to be like most of the self-help gang insofar as it's all about practising a kind of self-brainwashing, with a heft dose of fluffy nonsense talk to confuse one's self into believing the bits that do actually make a point.

      I'd much rather recommend Ayn Rand for a general education on what it means to be a man, and how to live as a man and be proud of doing so (with pride being the ultimate source of all human happiness). I think its probably best to mix her non-fiction with the fiction so that they help explain each other. I'd recommend Atlas Shrugged to anyone.

      Rand might not be the best for directly dealing with 'life's ups and downs', but starting with a solid foundation is going to help.


      I read a book about Nicolo Machiaveli (the subtitle was "a man misunderstood") quite a few years ago now, and it described his most famous work "the prince" (which I haven't read). In describing how to be a good prince he basically said that you need to make the most of the good times, and be prepared for the inescapable bad times that fate will throw at you. But while you're dealing with those bad times it's very important to be ready to take advantage of the good opportunities when they present themselves, instead of feeling sorry for yourself. I think the same can be said about life in general - it's important to understand and accept the reality of man's nature and to try not to struggle attempting to resolve apparent contradictions between reality and the way you'd like reality to be; and it's important to understand that the sole purpose of your life is to enjoy it as much as you can, and to understand where that happiness comes from so that you can achieve it.

      Happiness is that state of consciousness which proceeds from the achievement of one’s values. If a man values productive work, his happiness is the measure of his success in the service of his life. But if a man values destruction, like a sadist—or self-torture, like a masochist—or life beyond the grave, like a mystic—or mindless “kicks,” like the driver of a hotrod car—his alleged happiness is the measure of his success in the service of his own destruction. It must be added that the emotional state of all those irrationalists cannot be properly designated as happiness or even as pleasure: it is merely a moment’s relief from their chronic state of terror.

      Neither life nor happiness can be achieved by the pursuit of irrational whims. Just as man is free to attempt to survive by any random means, as a parasite, a moocher or a looter, but not free to succeed at it beyond the range of the moment—so he is free to seek his happiness in any irrational fraud, any whim, any delusion, any mindless escape from reality, but not free to succeed at it beyond the range of the moment nor to escape the consequences.
      -- Ayn Rand

      The bit I put in bold highlights the general vibe I get from Tolle, and why I don't like his spirituality in favour of a more objective philosophy.


      I don't know the nature of your downs though, so perhaps there might be some value in his work in that regard.

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        #23
        Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
        Eckhart Tolle | Official Site - Spiritual Teachings and Tools For Personal Growth and Happiness

        Had a Bupa assessment thingy yesterday. Doc I saw suggested I read "The Power of Now" by this chappie.

        Just found his website, and it looks like claptrap, not to mention the dodgy beard.

        Anyone looked into this stuff? Will it make me happy...?

        The Power of now...

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          #24
          Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
          Eckhart Tolle | Official Site - Spiritual Teachings and Tools For Personal Growth and Happiness

          Had a Bupa assessment thingy yesterday. Doc I saw suggested I read "The Power of Now" by this chappie.

          Just found his website, and it looks like claptrap, not to mention the dodgy beard.

          Anyone looked into this stuff? Will it make me happy...?
          Nope.

          Take up meditation and do it everyday - it's been proven to work.
          "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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            #25
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
            Nope.

            Take up meditation and do it everyday - it's been proven to work.
            +1

            It does work!

            With metta,

            one day at a time

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              #26
              Originally posted by SpontaneousOrder View Post

              I'd much rather recommend Ayn Rand for a general education on what it means to be a man, and how to live as a man and be proud of doing so (with pride being the ultimate source of all human happiness).
              Interesting concept - complete opposite of the Tolle/Buddhist message.

              Pride and ego I see as sources of unhappiness. Anyway - each to their own!
              "Is someone you don't like allowed to say something you don't like? If that is the case then we have free speech."- Elon Musk

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                #27
                Originally posted by mudskipper View Post
                Eckhart Tolle | Official Site - Spiritual Teachings and Tools For Personal Growth and Happiness

                Had a Bupa assessment thingy yesterday. Doc I saw suggested I read "The Power of Now" by this chappie.

                Just found his website, and it looks like claptrap, not to mention the dodgy beard.

                Anyone looked into this stuff? Will it make me happy...?
                Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                Ask the doc what the evidence base is as to whether reading it is an effective intervention. That will make you feel much better.
                More evidence for my thesis that current medical education is not fit for purpose in the modern world.
                There should be more logico-mathematical/statistical/epistemological/philosophy of science stuff rather than biological fact-cramming.
                Hard Brexit now!
                #prayfornodeal

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sasguru View Post
                  More evidence for my thesis that current medical education is not fit for purpose in the modern world.
                  There should be more logico-mathematical/statistical/epistemological/philosophy of science stuff rather than biological fact-cramming.
                  Actually there is a growing body of evidence that mindfulness & meditation is useful in the reduction of anxiety, stress and depression. It's a pretty sound recommendation, and probably a better one than prescribing happy pills in a lot of cases.
                  While you're waiting, read the free novel we sent you. It's a Spanish story about a guy named 'Manual.'

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by doodab View Post
                    Actually there is a growing body of evidence that mindfulness & meditation is useful in the reduction of anxiety, stress and depression. It's a pretty sound recommendation, and probably a better one than prescribing happy pills in a lot of cases.
                    Half way through the first chapter, and so far I think there's the promise of an interesting idea obfuscated by an awful lot of hippy mumbo jumbo. Will persevere...

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by doodab View Post
                      Actually there is a growing body of evidence that mindfulness & meditation is useful in the reduction of anxiety, stress and depression. It's a pretty sound recommendation, and probably a better one than prescribing happy pills in a lot of cases.
                      This is broadly true. Mrs OG is a cognitive neuroscientist who researches in a closely related area. I'm not sure it follows that reading the book will be effective.

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