Dear Richard Littlejohn, here’s some polish for that turd

[DodgyAgent]

How does he know what "people like her" are like? He hasn't tried to find anything out about her? Are you and Littlejohn related?

Why don't you ask him?

[jamesbrown]

The columnist's art: No paws for thought for Richard Littlejohn - Press - Media - The Independent

[xoggoth]

Illustrates the dangers of focusing on individual cases to make a point. The best commentators and politicians should focus on statistics. Problem is, then they'd be so boring nobody would read or vote for them.

PS But come to think of it, Gordon Brownstuff was always spouting statistics and look what crap he was.

[SueEllen]

Illustrates the dangers of focusing on individual cases to make a point. The best commentators and politicians should focus on statistics. Problem is, then they'd be so boring nobody would read or vote for them.

PS But come to think of it, Gordon Brownstuff was always spouting statistics and look what crap he was.

Nah they don't. They bring up a heart bleeding case from their constituency involving a kid as kids are always "innocent". Then if they are able misquote statistics as well to back up their heart bleeding case.

Though I suspect the current government just read The Wail for the stuff they come out with about individuals.

Edited to say: Bloody hell even the news are doing it - grandmother who is a carer looking after two kids after daughter (their mother) died, and is on minimum wage.

[doodab]

Edited to say: Bloody hell even the news are doing it - grandmother who is a carer looking after two kids after daughter (their mother) died, and is on minimum wage.

It's called a human interest story. As opposed to a human disinterest story, which involves statistics.

Unfortunately because of the low standard of mathematical education in this country most people, and especially those in the media, are ill equipped to understand statistics. This means that they are easily moulded to fit the prejudices of those using them as most people can't use them to form an opinion of their own.

[zoco]

Liddlejohn Hits Back

For all the (too) many Daily Mail readers on this forum:

Dear Richard Littlejohn, here’s some polish for that turd. | A GIRL CALLED JACK

Seems like she's shown her true colours now

Some tweet about Cameron -

using ‘stories about his dead son as misty-eyed rhetoric to legitimise selling our NHS to his friends

Whatever.

What gets me is people (always on the left) who call it "our NHS". It's all part of this holy cow syndrome - you just can't criticise this creaking, inefficient organisation (the second largest state employer in the world next to Indian State Railways!).

But lets face it, it can't survive in its current form and the left's answer is always to hose it down with taxpayers' cash. All that seems to do is create a culture of wastefulness as well as bloated layers of middle management with their targets based culture which just seems to further compound the problems.

Anyway, back to Jack. What a shocking thing to say - if that had been the other way round this would be plastered all over the Guardian and the hand wringing would be going on for weeks.

Well done Sainsburys for giving her the heave-ho.

So, final score: Monroe 1 - Liddlejohn 1.

[darmstadt]

Seems like she's shown her true colours now

Some tweet about Cameron -

A political blogger actually posted a, possibly harder, version of that 21 hours before she did but why didn't the right wing press pick up on him (they normally do): http://i2.wp.com/voxpoliticalonline....nroetweet2.jpg. Would it be because:

Perhaps it indicates that Ms Monroe was targeted, not because she suggested anything that was beyond the pale or unforgivable, but because she is a person from the lower orders who certain people believe has ideas above her station.

Her A Girl Called Jack blog catapulted her into the public eye because it offered ideas about how to make decent meals to people struggling to feed their families on a low budget – in other words, people on benefits. She did it to chronicle her own efforts to feed herself and her son on a food budget of just £10 per week – and she started blogging in response to a local councillor who claimed that ‘druggies, drunks and single mums are ruining the High Street’. A book of recipes went straight to the top of the charts at the start of the year, and a sequel may do the same before Christmas.

She built herself up from ‘Benefit Street’ and the blogosphere to become a success – and the vested interests don’t like it. It disproves their narrative that everyone on benefits is a scrounger, a skiver and a sponger – and they need working people to think what they tell them to think in the run-up to next year’s general election.

That’s why the Tories and the trolls have gone after her; it was an opportunity to put down a lower-class upstart and stifle the facts she was broadcasting.

Although it wasn't a nice thing to do but then again Cameron does have a habit of using his son in discussions about the NHS and disabled people: Freud Revelation Exposes Weakness in David Cameron's Technique | Will Black

Its also interesting to note that the right wing press and its many followers are jumping on the fact that the left wing press and its followers have not (fully) reacted yet but are stating that if a right wing person said such things then there would be an outcry. Isn't that exactly what they're doing? In fact the left wing do react, you only need to look at the recent case of MP Emily Thornberry. It doesn't matter which side you're on, you can see that both sides are hypocrites and are only marching to their own agenda...

[DodgyAgent]

A political blogger actually posted a, possibly harder, version of that 21 hours before she did but why didn't the right wing press pick up on him (they normally do): http://i2.wp.com/voxpoliticalonline....nroetweet2.jpg. Would it be because:



Although it wasn't a nice thing to do but then again Cameron does have a habit of using his son in discussions about the NHS and disabled people: Freud Revelation Exposes Weakness in David Cameron's Technique*|*Will Black

Its also interesting to note that the right wing press and its many followers are jumping on the fact that the left wing press and its followers have not (fully) reacted yet but are stating that if a right wing person said such things then there would be an outcry. Isn't that exactly what they're doing? In fact the left wing do react, you only need to look at the recent case of MP Emily Thornberry. It doesn't matter which side you're on, you can see that both sides are hypocrites and are only marching to their own agenda...

The Tories do not pretend to be representatives of the lower classes and the poor whereas the left do . So quite why both sides are guilty of hypocrisy I do not know.

In order to strengthen a point of view that is weak on its own merits people always pin themselves to some sort of sacred totem in order to make them look worthy and generous and caring. Whether it is climate change, religion, the NHS the left are at it. Unfortunately this politicises and undermines causes that are worthy of being taken seriously. The NHS should be made to work for everyone no matter whether it is private in part or in total. It is the bigots of the left that are preventing the reforms that are needed.

To be fair to Cameron he is trying to show that he has as much cause as anyone to want the NHS to work for everyone. Unfortunately he cannot win because the left will always whine.

My own morality "credentials" are pinned at the feet of John Bird. i admire him enormously and I challenge anyone to question his integrity when it comes to caring for those that are less well off then the rest of us. This is what he thinks of the moaners:

John Bird: My generation had a boy band, DMs and a culture of moaning. So nothing

[EternalOptimist]

The Tories do not pretend to be representatives of the lower classes and the poor whereas the left do . So quite why both sides are guilty of hypocrisy I do not know.

good point.





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[SueEllen]

The NHS should be made to work for everyone no matter whether it is private in part or in total. It is the bigots of the left that are preventing the reforms that are needed.

To be fair to Cameron he is trying to show that he has as much cause as anyone to want the NHS to work for everyone. Unfortunately he cannot win because the left will always whine.

Interesting linky